Mineralesque Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml09/09115.htmlWould we have to get the Zinc wicks tested as well? What do you think?Linette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairieannie Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml09/09115.htmlWould we have to get the Zinc wicks tested as well? What do you think?LinetteIsn't this law geared toward items for children? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicky_CO Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 That law has been stayed for a year we have a year to fight that law. We need to have it better written. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mineralesque Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 I know it is regarding children items but they put in there about candles with metal cores. Here is what was posted:The stay does not apply to:*Four requirements for third-party testing and certification of certain children's products subject to:**The ban on lead in paint and other surface coatings effective for products made after December 21, 2008;**The standards for full-size and non full-size cribs and pacifiers effective for products made after January 20, 2009;**The ban on small parts effective for products made after February 15, 2009; and**The limits on lead content of metal components of children's jewelry effective for products made after March 23, 2009.*Certification requirements applicable to ATV's manufactured after April 13, 2009.*Pre-CPSIA testing and certification requirements, including for: automatic residential garage door openers, bike helmets, candles with metal core wicks, lawnmowers, lighters, mattresses, and swimming pool slides; and*Pool drain cover requirements of the Virginia Graeme Baker Pool & Spa Safety Act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I asked about that and got only why some people prefer to use zinc lol!Zinc is a low-end metal and that law indicates metal (not specific) so I think we need to find out from suppliers here about that. Maybe they were still tailoring the act to lead core wicks that apparently still find their way here through imports, but they need to be more specific is my thought. I think it is including zinc by the way it is written, but haven't run into anything that says otherwise or necessarily agrees. Somehow, candles with metal wicks aren't a child's toy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 That law has been stayed for a year we have a year to fight that law. We need to have it better written.If I read that right ... it isn't stayed. This one goes into effect and doesn't get any more grace period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopsgirl Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 i don't see how a candle could be considered a child's toy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mineralesque Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 i don't see how a candle could be considered a child's toyI know. That is so weird. Maybe they don't want you burning a candle with a wick made out of lead around kids. LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mineralesque Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 I asked about that and got only why some people prefer to use zinc lol!Zinc is a low-end metal and that law indicates metal (not specific) so I think we need to find out from suppliers here about that. Maybe they were still tailoring the act to lead core wicks that apparently still find their way here through imports, but they need to be more specific is my thought. I think it is including zinc by the way it is written, but haven't run into anything that says otherwise or necessarily agrees. Somehow, candles with metal wicks aren't a child's toy.Maybe we do need to find out from the suppliers. Maybe they will supply us something that says they are safe and that they have only .004%.of lead content.I guess I am going to have to retest with a different wick until it is clear. DARN IT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondk Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 What if we only use zinc wicks? Does this mean I have to retest everything with a different wick and trash all of my container candles now? I won't trash them I will use them myself. TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mineralesque Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 Bitterecreek said that we are fine because they are US wicks and they have everything documented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Great. I just was seeking info from Alan too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondk Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Great. I just was seeking info from Alan too.Yes I need info from Alan since I get my wicks from them. Thanks Scented for doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mineralesque Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 I am checking with others as well like GL and LS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernGal Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 This is the reason Candle Science said they decided not to carry them anymore. When I called to order from Peaks 2 weeks ago, I asked if they would still carry them. The lady on the phone said they had not heard they would not at that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cissy Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I wonder why Candle Science didn't tell me that when I asked. They just said they are not reordering any products that don't sell so well . It seems they are cutting corners like most of us who can't be stocking up on our slower moving products. I was given the impression that the zinc wicks are one of those products that's not moving as well lately. Maybe they just didn't want to say at the time, the real reason or maybe they really did give me the real reason. Guess we'll just have to wait and see which one is correct. I sure do have a lot of zinc wicks (my favorites) I hope I haven't wasted money on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love2Scent Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I sure as heck hope I don't have to retest all my scents/jars for new wicking just because of this stupid law. Candles are not made for kids anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mineralesque Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 I just looked at the package of wicks that I received from BCS today. On the package it says Conforms to 16 CFR 1500.17(a)(13).BCS website has this website for that http://www.epa.gov/EPA-IMPACT/2003/April/Day-18/i9255.htm.I hope that is okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernGal Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 They just said they are not reordering any products that don't sell so well . When I talked to them, they also stated they didn't sell that many zincs and said it was alot of trouble to have to label them due to some new rule. At the time, I didn't know what rule or law they were talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 It’s not really a new regulation going into effect on February 10th. It’s a stay on the enforcement of requirements aimed at various consumer products. In a nutshell, it means a bunch of consumer products are getting an extra year to get into compliance with the CPSC.However, the stay, or time extension to comply, isn’t given to candles with metal core wicks. So, does that mean you have to ditch your zinc core wicks, and start all over? No. It just means you should consider getting into compliance. When the regulation pertaining to metal core wicks was introduced several years ago, it struck me as annoying. To comply, you have be able to state that your wicks aren’t the bad ones, and “Conforms to 16 CFR 1500.17(a)(13).” with a sticker or label on the carton. At first, it seemed kind of silly to have to label the zinc cored wicks as conforming, while there was no equivalent requirement for the lead cored ones such as “contains banned material that is hazardous to humans.” What do I know though?What will it take for many people to get into compliance? It is pretty much as simple as putting a sticker on the carton to indicate that it “Conforms to 16 CFR 1500.17(a)(13).”Your supplier should be able to confirm this information for you. Every zinc core wick I’ve seen made in the USA is well below the standards set forth by the CPSC ruling. But, check with your supplier to be sure.I’m usually a defiant person when it comes to more regulation. It’s probably a trait left-over from teen age years. Anyway, I thought more about this issue this morning. The labeling requirement doesn’t really seem that bad. Take for instance a label that says: These carefully crafted candles Conform to 16 CFR 1500.17(a)(13) as set forth by the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission… sounds like a feature, doesn’t it? Cheers,Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondk Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Alan, then you are saying we are ok with the zinc wicks we get from you? TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Ours exceed the standard, and that is probably true for most suppliers.You're probably OK with the zinc core wicks from any supplier in the United States, if they are getting wicks made in the USA. It doesn't hurt to ask them though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Thanks Alan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mineralesque Posted February 5, 2009 Author Share Posted February 5, 2009 Alan, do you think it would be a good idea for us then to put this on the labels "These carefully crafted candles Conform to 16 CFR 1500.17(a)(13) as set forth by the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission". At least something to that effect.Customers might go ...what the heck does that mean?Linette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 If you just put "conforms to 16 CFR 1500.17(a)(13)," then the uninitiated will certainly wonder what that means. But, if you add that it has to do with the CPSC, then maybe they'll know where to look it up if interested. Its obviously more than what is required, but may be helpful... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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