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I found an old, inactive thread in Google cache about suggestions for wax & wicks combinations. I hope it's OK that I post it since it has some helpful info. I'm going to have to post it in parts since it was a rather long thread and is too big to put it all in one post.

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(Message started by: Cali on Jan 15th, 2004, 10:18pm)

Title: Suggestion Chart

Post by Cali on Jan 15th, 2004, 10:18pm

Hello all, I see alot of us have wick issues. Maybe Allan ::) would help us get a wick suggestion heading just like the others on the left side under general info. Maybe we could add to this thread and say what wax we use and wicks. That way if we have any suggestions we could use that for a guide.

I use 4625 & 1343 3in round mold with 36ply flat

votives-CD4

containers classic jars

4627-4oz CD4 6oz CD8 9oz CD10

I am in testing on the 4x4 square mold and no luck with wicks yet. Looking for suggestions though. Happy Friday!

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Post by Cali on Jan 15th, 2004, 11:16pm

Soooo, no comments :'( I'm surprised I thought this would be a good thing.

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Post by EB Candles on Jan 15th, 2004, 11:21pm

Okay, i will join in on the bandwagon.

16oz apothecary - J223 - 51zinc

9.5oz balmoral - J223 - LX18 or 51zinc

4.5oz balmoral - J223 - 36zinc

5oz frosted apothecary - J223 - 36zinc

8oz jelly - J223 - 51zinc

votives - V blend - 36zinc

Pillars - 2 inchers - 6228, 1343, mot38 - LX14

Pillars - 3 inchers - 6228, 1343, mot38 - 36 flat

Pillars - 4 inchers - 6228, 1343, mot38 - 45 flat

Pillars - 3 inch - PQ - 45 flat

Pillars - 3 inch - Palm 3 - RRD 40

Pillars - 4 inch - Palm 3 - RRD 40

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Post by EB Candles on Jan 16th, 2004, 11:28am

bumping this one to the top. I agree with Cali, there are many new people having trouble with wicks and questioning wick sizes. this would be a good way to have all the information out there without having to retype it everytime someone new comes aboard.

Thanks in advance everyone!

Carmen

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Post by catlady on Jan 16th, 2004, 11:46am

8 oz jelly jar (21/2 dia) j223 51z or 44-32-18z

8 oz jelly jar (3 in dia) j223 51z

12 oz jelly jar (3 in dia) 51z

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Post by Katie on Jan 16th, 2004, 11:51am

I am still in the testing stage, so no real input I can give. I did find this site to be very helpful.

http://www.aromahaven.com/wickchart.html

Katie

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Post by Alan on Jan 16th, 2004, 12:01pm

OK, I think we can do it. Where did that darn to-do list go anyway? I'll look into some sort of solution to see if this can be passively maintained somehow. If not, then I'll just manually assemble it based on what comes up in this thread. :)

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Post by KarenS on Jan 16th, 2004, 12:46pm

OH Thank you, thank you, thank you everyone!! I am such a wick problem child!! I did just do a test on my votives though and here are the results I got.

129 MP wax with 1/2tbs. UA per lb--- LX10 or 36-24-24P

Both burned for 16hrs in a 2oz votive and left almost no wax. Well I conquered one for now!!! yeeehaaa!

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Post by candlecurious on Jan 16th, 2004, 2:59pm

I too seem to be having problems with wicking......I see others use fairly close to the same formula as me and have good results but I can't seem to quite get it :-/

I do containers and so far, the container I really like is the 16oz elevation jars. I'm also using a 4oz votive. I've tried 4786, j300, j223 and now I'm using the 6006 wax.

With the 4786 wax, I've tried the 51-31-18z = small melt pool. I didn't like how hard this wax was to handle. So I went to the J300 and used a 60-44-18z wicks = still not a good melt pool...1/4" to 1/2" hangup. So I tried the 62-52-18 cotton wicks = a better melt pool, not a full one tho and the scent throw wasn't very strong. Next I tried the J223 that I got for a sample, scent throw was good but melt pool left 1/4" hang using the 60-44-18z's. Got a full melt pool with the 62-52-18 cotton but still had a little hang up. Now I'm testing the 6006 wax. I like the ease of handling, hot scent throw is good, cold is ok, kind of weak, melt pool is good on the second test burn however, I do still get some hangup. Is this normal? The best size wick for the 16oz seems to be the cotton wicks.

In my 4oz votives I'm having to use the 60-44-18z's. Get a perfect melt pool in these using the 6006 wax.

Sorry about the length of this posting but I was wondering, should I try the CD, LX or HTP wicks. Don't know much about these or what size to start with. I'm hoping someone could tell me what they would recommend? Or am I being too picky with how my candles are burning? PLEASE HELP! ???

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Post by PhyllisW on Jan 16th, 2004, 3:12pm

Alan, maybe you could do it like the Color Suggestions page?

This is just a hobby for me, and my days only have about 30 hours in them, so I have a very limited selection LOL:

6 oz. metal tins ~ IGI4627 ~ HTP73

8 oz. metal tins ~ IGI4627 ~ HTP83

Phyl

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Post by Cali on Jan 16th, 2004, 9:16pm

Thank you Alan for considering this. Not too many responses though.

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Post by Andrew on Jan 18th, 2004, 6:43am

EZSoy Wax - 8oz Jelly Jars - HTP104 90% of the time except with heavier FO Like Patchouli

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Post by TracyinPA on Jan 18th, 2004, 7:00am

I use 70% J223 and 30% Dussek 5766 (now Igi 6002)

16 and 26 oz apothecary I use 2 superior 635 wicks

5oz apothecary I use LX 14

10 Square jar from Darice.com LX18

Votives LX 12

Just now starting pillars so no input on those yet.

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Post by Barefoot65 on Jan 18th, 2004, 9:08am

First I'm going to pin this to the top for a bit till everyone get a chance to post thier results Some of us it may take a while to get our answers together

2 Pillar PQ 18ply

3 Pillar Palm 3 and PQ 45ply

4 Pillar Palm 3 still testing on PQ LX30

Votive Palm 3 and PQ HTP 52

Votive Soy pillar with 2oz beewax HTP73 or HTP83

Soy plus beeswax blend

4 oz, 8oz & 12oz jelly jar HTP 104 or 51-32-18C

4 oz squat hex HTP83

9 oz Hex HTP105

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Post by elizabeth on Jan 18th, 2004, 9:52am

Great Idea Cali!!!! :)

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Post by Cali on Jan 18th, 2004, 10:04am

Thank you!! ;) I am now starting pillers and I think it would be nice to see what others are trying or using. Just like the color sugg. chart if your not sure you look it up. Hopefully this can work the same way ::)

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Post by Sal_gal on Jan 18th, 2004, 11:01am

I buy paper core wicks from the local arts & craft show, I normally wax the wick. I haven't tried any others bec I don't know what the differences are. I am doing molds/pillars.

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Post by Linnyeg on Jan 18th, 2004, 11:58am

I've found that canwax has some great suggestions here

http://www.canwax.shoppingcartsplus.com/page/page/369994.htm

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Post by groovy_momma on Jan 18th, 2004, 1:24pm

This is a fabulous idea, thanks for starting it Cali - and for everyone participating. I've got a boatload of notes, but will add mine as I think of them:

Votives (paraffin blend):

CD4 and CD5 - sometimes I have to wick up to a CD6, but start out testing 4 and 5 together. 5 usually wins.

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Post by diamondk on Jan 18th, 2004, 3:56pm

4786

4oz quilted jelly jars - 44-32-18Z

8oz quilted jelly jars - 44-32-18Z or 51-32-18Z or CD8

4oz tins - 44-24-18Z or 44-32-18Z

8oz tins - 51-32-18Z

This is all that I have tested. HTH

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Post by Mary_54 on Jan 18th, 2004, 5:50pm

I was thinking the same thing the other day. I want to start some pillars and am so confused on which one to use. This will be great. I will get my notes and post mine. thanks Alan

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Post by Karen on Jan 18th, 2004, 10:30pm

Thanks to Groovy mamma's help I'm just trying out the cd4 and cd5 in my 2oz votives. CD5 seems to be the winner.

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Post by groovy_momma on Jan 19th, 2004, 12:21am

Cool, Karen - glad those are working out for you :)

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Post by Chelby65 on Jan 19th, 2004, 12:48pm

Problem child also here for wicking...great idea. Fabo!!!!!!!!

\chelby

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Post by elizabeth on Jan 20th, 2004, 6:57am

i seem to have good results with the CD's as well. :D

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Post by snowcow on Jan 20th, 2004, 8:08am

Here's my info!

1343 with stearic or vybar

3in - 24 ply flat

4in - not sure, but 36 does NOT work!

Thought I would throw in these novelty molds too:

Crescent Moon (larger style) 18 ply

Star with 3 or maybe 3 1/4 in inside diameter: 18 ply

5 petal flower (about 3 in diameter) 18 ply

Also have a small star with a 2 1/2 in diamater and will try the 15 ply when I get it. 18 is still too big.

;D

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Post by Aileen on Jan 20th, 2004, 8:20am

Here's what little info I can add. LOL

8 oz jelly jar (2.5 in diameter) 60% J223/40% soy - CD 10 or 12.

8 oz jelly jar (2.5 in diameter) 100 % soy- HTP 104 or CD14

2 oz votives IGI 4794 CD 5 or 6

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Post by Wynema72 on Jan 21st, 2004, 1:13pm

Thanks for all the info i am still new to this. I am using quilted 8oz. jelly jars and i have wick 44-24-18z and the melt pool is not good. I double up on the wicks and now it is good, but was wondering what wick size to order next time (now i know i see some of you use 44-32-18z). Thanks ya all. One more thing i use 6006 wax and was wondering what is the difference in J223 wax? Does it have a better scent throw (hot)? Thanks again

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Post by sher on Jan 21st, 2004, 1:55pm

Wynema - I test burnt 4- 8 oz quilted jelly jars for the last couple of days using 6006 wax and French Vanilla scent. at .75 oz/lb scent (which should be a heavier scent being vanilla I think) - I used CD8, 44-24-18Z, 51-32-18, and htp-41. The htp-41 didn't give a good melt pool, so replaced with the htp-52. What I found that both the CD8 and 44-24-18Z worked the best. They were comparable. I was surprised that the bigger wick - the 51-32-18 didn't work as well, but would have been okay. (It eventually caught up) The htp-52 worked the least well as far as melt pool-but had the least mushrooming. I had a little mushrooming on the other 3. But I would be happy with either the CD8 or 44-24-18Z. After 3 - 3-4 hour burn sessions here are is a picture, left to right 44,cd8,51,htp52. HTH

(modified to take out vybar - duh didn't add any)

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Post by Gretchen on Jan 21st, 2004, 3:07pm

this wick business is tough. I have only used flat wick for glass moulded tapers. The wick I have been using for pillars does not even sound like anything I've seen talked about here. The numbers on my wick is 0/1 I seem to have reasonable results in 3.5"to 4" diameters...he other sizes are 3 and 24. All braided. Should I be using more flat wicks? I use parrafin & a combination of beeswax..very little beeswax maybe 20 to 1.

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Post by Jessie on Jan 21st, 2004, 4:12pm

Wynema,

For the 8 oz jelly jars with 6006, I've used the HTP-73 and they worked pretty well. I also wanted to try the 83's but just haven't gotten around to it.

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Post by Wynema72 on Jan 22nd, 2004, 7:48am

Sher and Jessie, Thanks for the info. Now to sound dumb, what kind of wick is the HTP? I take it that its not a zinc wick? Where are you guys ordering them from? I have only ordered from lonestar so far, i will check and see if they have them next time i go to that site.

Sher, another silly question, what is vybar? I am new to this and self teaching. I just got froggy one day and jumped into something i had no clue how to do. I'm loving it though... Thanks a bunch this site has been a life or should i say candle saver for me. ;D

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Post by Txfree on Jan 26th, 2004, 4:42am

I have been using 51-32-18 zinc in my 8oz wide mouth jelly jars. I get a good burn great scent throw. But the mushrooming is driving me bonkers. I was thinking of changing to 51-32-18p. Is this comparable to the zinc. I don't want my wicks falling over in the burning stage. Which is another reason I use the zinc.

also I have been testing the 8oz elevation jars and boy do I suck. The hang up on the sides are about 1/4 thick. I have burned it till nothing left of the wick. never got a full melt pool. I used 51-32-18z Any suggestions? PLEASE.

Thanks

Vicky

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Post by Lizzy on Feb 3rd, 2004, 7:53am

This is a great topic! Since I have easier access for shipping from Candlewic and Candles & Supplies, I use different waxes than a lot of you. Here are my test results for starting points.

Candlewic 4045H mottling wax

1" pillar - 2/0 round

2" pillar - HTP 72

3" pillar - 1/0 round

IGI 1218 Translucent wax

2" pillar - RRD 37

3" pillar - LX 18 or LX 20

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Post by TX Candles on Feb 4th, 2004, 5:03am

We have some widemouth canning jars that we're having trouble with. They are an 8oz and a 16oz. Both 3" wide and of course the 16oz is twice as tall. We've tried both 44z and 51z sizes and even the 51z leaves some on the side. Is this normal? Most websites claim that the 51z is good up to 4" dia. Seems like the 44z should even work. THanks

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Post by sewhite on Feb 5th, 2004, 8:43am

What a great idea !! I'm new at this and still testing

wicks so that would be so excellent to have a reliable guide

to help with this oh so confusing issue.

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Post by bunnyblossom on Feb 6th, 2004, 3:15pm

Question for those who use the htp 104 in the jelly jars... Especially the 8 oz ones. I for the life of me don't get it?! When i used those in the ball pint widemouth jars, or anything that wasn't at least 5 inches across, I got horrible horrible soot. I tested my heart out, and couldn't get them to work in any size jelly jar. Bad batch of wicks maybe? I'm lost!

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Post by Southern_Ladies on Feb 7th, 2004, 3:58pm

Hello my name is Cindy me and my best friend are stay at home moms, and thought this would be something fun to do and make some extra cash. We have ordered from Bitercreek and Lonestar. We use the 8oz.jelly jars. With J-50 wax . We have used 51-32-18z wicks, and the LX18 wicks. We use 1 pound of wax and 1 1/2 oz. of fragrance. We heat the wax to 175. then let it cool to 160 and add the fragrance and dye then pour. But all the candles we've made barely have a flame and a small melt pool that just burns down the middle. We were using crayola crayons for coloring , but we stoped using them becasue we heard that crayons can clog the wick , so now we use liquid dye. Could somebody please help us and let us know what can we be doing wrong ! Thanks and look foward to hearing from you !

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Post by diamondk on Feb 7th, 2004, 4:15pm

Hi Cindy,

How long are you burning your candles for at a time? It could be you aren't burning long enough for each burn. HTH

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Post by Southern_Ladies on Feb 7th, 2004, 5:23pm

Thank you for responding I usually burn them for several hours and other people i have given them too have said the same thing ! THANKS CINDY !

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Post by naturalwaxcandles on Feb 25th, 2004, 7:12pm

ECO 135

16 oz Apoth-ECO 12

10 oz Apoth-ECO 12

6oz Triangle& 6 oz. Tin-ECO 6

8 oz Tin-ECO 8

ECO PB

votives-#2

Beeswax

votives-#2

2" Pillar-#3

3" Pillar-#4

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Post by denad28 on Mar 4th, 2004, 9:07pm

Okay - new person's confusion with too much info has thoroughly set in. :P

What are the #2, #3, #4 wicks?

Are these the same as, for instance, 2/0 ?

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Post by Cali on Mar 4th, 2004, 10:50pm

No, the 2/0 is smaller than #2. Go to any candle site and look at the wicks under braided and you will see the different sizes. HTH

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Post by catlady on Mar 5th, 2004, 6:30am

Astorlite PQ, 3x6 inch pillar, 24 ply flat wick.

Good burn but very weak scent throw.

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Post by paulalynn on Mar 9th, 2004, 7:25am

I have a 26oz elevation jar from walmart I am getting ready to try. Does anyone have a suggestion on the wick size & also should I double or single wick? As for the question about the HTP 104 I use them in some of my 8oz jars it really depends on the fo though. Some of my fo do soot really bad with this size but others do great amount some you can burn for only 2 hours before sooting others you can burn for 3 to 3 1/2 hours and get nothing...in the ones I can't use them in I use 51z (like fudge brownie, ginger peach so far I think those are the only 2). My 16oz wide mouth mason jars I use HTP 105. In all these my wax I use is J300. HTH someone out there!

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Post by suzglasslady on Mar 10th, 2004, 6:38am

I only pour the 26 oz. apothecary jars and use 6006 wax. I've tested several wicks in this jar and the best burn pool comes from a 60-44-18Z wick for me anyway. I've used that for several fragrances and the results seems to be the same in each jar. I do have to burn it for a longer time for the first burn, like ALL day (8 hours or more) but it leaves very little hangup on the sides, and what is hung-up there seems to just slide down the jar. So far no customer complaints... they just love the scents (Peaks of course!) and no one cares about a small mushroom or a little hangup on the jar.

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Post by Mashel on Mar 12th, 2004, 10:41am

For your 26 Elevation....you use only 1, 60z? I have 2 of those jars and i do have the 60z...but i use the J300....do you think 1, 60z would work or should i try 2 of something lower?

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Post by paulalynn on Mar 12th, 2004, 1:10pm

I think on my 26oz Elevation jar I am going to try 2 of the 51z (cause I have those on hand) then if they don't work maybe try the HTP 105 or the 61z!

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Post by epompagade on Apr 15th, 2004, 8:03am

Okay, I am thinking about using a different wick because the zinc wicks STINK!! I need suggestions for container travel tins: 4oz, 8oz & 16oz. Thanks!!!

I am also thinking about making cathedral container candles. Any suggestions? ?

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Post by 9799Mom on Apr 19th, 2004, 9:27pm

Help!!! I thought I would try and make some pillar candles. My Mother-In-law bought me Pillar Wax 4625 from Peaks and several fragrances. I am totally confused on what kind of wick I need to use. My molds are from Michaels (a craft store). Can anyone help me please!!

Melissa

PS My MIL put a request in for a candle like she saw at Peaks that looks like it has glass in it - any ideas on how to make it?

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Post by bunnyblossom on Mar 15th, 2004, 9:02pm

You have a 61 z?? I have 60 and 62... Where'd you get that! WOOHOO!! If you answer all my problems (well, one big one) will be solved!

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Post by paulalynn on Mar 16th, 2004, 2:42pm

;D Sorry...that was a mistype!!! I am going to try the 60z. But I have tried two 51z in my 26oz and it works good...but I am going to test it in a harder to burn fo to see what it burns like in it!

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Post by diamondk on Apr 20th, 2004, 5:30am

Hey there Melissa. What size is the mold you are going to be using? If your mold is 3x?? you can start with a 24 flat ply and then try a 30 flat ply. I use both of these. If your mold is 2x?? then you could start with an 18 flat ply and then try a 21 flat ply. If I knew which candle picture you are talking about maybe I could help you on the type of candle it is. HTH

Happy candlemaking :)

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Post by CandleMomma on Apr 26th, 2004, 9:30pm

24 oz balmoral (Walmart) filled to 20 oz with J223 - 22CD

Keepsake (Walmart) new wax from C&S - 22CD

62C worked almost as well bit of a hangup half way down container, but I believe it will catch up. I'll probably stick with the CD.

Just made the balmoral with the new wax (22CD); I'll post after burning.

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Post by shell1226 on Apr 27th, 2004, 6:02pm

16 oz. Apothecary - 2 51-32-18z

4 oz tin - 1 44-20-18z

8 oz tin - 2 44-20-18z

They are working out beautifully (thank goodness)

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Post by beachlife on May 5th, 2004, 5:40am

good morning everybody,its me again :-/ ??? i was wondering has anybody ever used a muffin pan to make candles if so how do you wick? the size is 31/2" and the bottom is about 21/2 inches i also dont know what size wick to use either. i wanted to share with you all, my results with the wax i got mottling pillar wax 2554 i love that rustic look candles came out ok but i got some lines and the seams i just cant seem to get rid of can never get a perfect candle. as soon as i get a camera i will post some pictures, but dont laugh ok, anyways i taken enough space ??? :) thanks a bunch

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Post by epompagade on May 25th, 2004, 6:18pm

4oz tin= HTP83

5oz apothecary frosted jar = HTP83

8oz tin = HTP105

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Post by MaryP on Jun 24th, 2004, 12:28pm

Just found this thread and read all three pages... I had a few "comments" and thought I'd share with you.

Someone mentioned having a "reliable guide" to follow when it comes to wicking. This would be really wonderful; however, I've done this long enough to realize that what may "work" terrific for several of you does NOT always work for me and visa versa... There is not explanation for that, but it does happen!

So - especially for some of you Newbies - please understand the only way you're going to know if something "works" is to TEST it for yourself! Some of you want to be out there selling, but you need to be 100% sure of YOUR candles...

I almost always use 1oz FO to 16oz of wax! (As it happens, I'm close enough to Candles & Supplys AND Candlewic to PICK UP my wax AND have latched on to Eco Soya 135 for containers and PB for votives.) I "season" my jars for two weeks (sometimes more) and, normally, have a great scent throw! For the most part I use RRD wicks...

A few of you had questions about zinc wicks... I tried them but didn't care for them myself. I understand that if you mail candles that contain zinc wicks you have to include some kind of disclaimer on the outside of your shipping carton..???

...Anyway PAPER cored wicks burn a little hotter than your zinc. I've never had any that have fallen over into my wax either -- they stay straight as the zinc! I, personally like these pretty much. They're fantastic in the wider containers! (I really think they'd be worth your trying in those containers that are not quite burning to the edge!!!)

60-44-18 for 4-5" containers AND 62-52-18 for 4.5" to 5.5"

I've gotta say, needing to burn a candle for 8 hrs to get a full melt pool is NOT a feasible thing... TRY PAPER WICKS or use TWO wicks (<<some customers like the two!)...

HTH answer some questions.

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Post by MicsWicks on Jun 25th, 2004, 2:45pm

This was a great idea Cali...I know I can definately use help here. :)

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Post by latch2 on Jun 30th, 2004, 10:39pm

Hello, I am brand new at posting, although I have been

a big fan of the message board for some time now.

I am a beginning candle maker, and have a question about wicking. I have searched for some answers, and intend to search some more, but what i need to know is what is LX,CD

and RRD. Sorry if this is a silly question, it will help me when i search for answers.

thanks

Latch2

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Post by mustang67 on Jul 5th, 2004, 6:36pm

Hello Latch, these are types of wicks. I am testing lx right now, I also have samples cd's. The rrd's I have not tried. Hope this helps ya!

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Post by latch2 on Jul 5th, 2004, 9:38pm

thanks

i did some further research and i have a sample pk of htp wicks coming in this week, and some sample scents, cant wait to start testing.

latch2

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Post by art1 on Jul 7th, 2004, 7:27am

I've begun testing RRD's with soy, both container and pillar and am loving them so far! I had been using HTP but the RRD's are working sooooo much better.

3" pillars, Astrolite F & PQ - RRD 50 (sometimes 47)

WalMart elevation jars, KY 125 - RRD 47

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Post by rockitmom on Jul 7th, 2004, 9:36am

Here's my "wick" question: My sister dropped off a really nice crock candle in the shape of a pear. It is just about emptied of the wax and I am melting it as we speak. It is approx. 5 inches wide (at it's widest) and almost 4" tall. (I will be pouring J223 when I refill it). There were 3 wicks in it and I pulled them out and they looked somewhat thick, but I haven't a clue as to their actual wick size. (I did measure them up against the 62-52-18z wicks I have and they appear to match the size/width) but I am thinking it might too much of a FLAMING fireball when lit (?)

Any suggestions? (I have 51z, 44z, and the 62z). Just not sure which to use on this chunky crock.

TIA!

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Post by DrJones on Jul 7th, 2004, 9:49am

i would use 3 51z and spread them out evenly

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Post by rockitmom on Jul 7th, 2004, 10:43am

# 51z's it is! THANK YOU!!! ;D

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Post by Cetacea on Jul 22nd, 2004, 12:38pm

Never posted here before, but I completely understand about wicking suggestions and confusion. I read through and didn't see anyone post the chart at candlewic, its hard to locate, but they have a great chart for starting out. The link in below, HTH

http://www.candlewic.com/candle-wicks/pop-spools.asp

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Post by soulshine on Aug 14th, 2004, 11:11am

I use a reg 141mp wax and add 1 tblspn per pound, for pillars that approx. 3" I use 2/0 square cotton braided wick, haven't made any votives in a while... so I"d have to test those all over again... and 4" to 5" I use a 36 ply. I think this thread is a great idea sorry I didn't see it sooner... I have lots of wicking questions too...

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Post by Katherine_M on Sep 3rd, 2004, 4:19pm

Hello, I am new a posting and candlemaking. This is the first time I have seen this site. I think it is wonderful. I use IGI 4786 wax with 8oz straight dided jelly jars. My wicks are 51-32-18z. I have good reslts with the pool but now that I have been reading the board I am worried that I might be missing something that I should have noticed. I have wet spots on the jars when they have completely cooled. I'm not sure if it matters but I thought maybe I have been heating my jars to hot. I read on another site that you don't have to poke holes before the second pour, Is this true. Sorry for so many questions on the first posting. Please help.

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Post by Keep_it_Lit on Oct 4th, 2004, 5:31pm

Maybe I missed something here but.......what size would you use for a 4"x4" jar of soy wax ? I have used 2 htp 105's and just tried using 2 62-52-18c wicks. The melt pool with the 18c's are very deep and I'm wondering if this could be overkill ? The 105's sometime work poorly in certain oils and dyes.

Thanks

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Post by catlover42 on Oct 5th, 2004, 7:45pm

I think this is a wonderful idea!! I'm am a "very newbie" and going through product testing every weekend (my workdays usually run 10-12 hours so Saturday's are my only "fun" days when I can make candles). I'd be pleased to post successful results. Hope everyone can participate!! :)

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Post by RoseRita on Oct 6th, 2004, 1:31pm

This is fantastic. I've found answers to some of my wick problems.

Suggestion: If a list of wicks/containers is made, why not go a step further and tell what wax that is used with each wick.. ;)

Thanks bunches

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Post by lilstinkas on Oct 21st, 2004, 5:19pm

im new here sorry if i do this wrong

ive had a few candles where the wick goes out?

can someone shed some light on this for me pardon the pun hehehe

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Post by bunnyblossom on Oct 22nd, 2004, 3:47pm

Try one size up on your wicks and see if it works...

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Post by mary_jennets on Oct 28th, 2004, 3:00pm

Cetacea,

thanks. those are nice charts.

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Post by mary_jennets on Oct 28th, 2004, 3:11pm

a complete newbie, and i have two bags of wicks that are confusing me. i can only identify them by their tags stamped onto the baggies. :-[

one says "wick raw 1/10 square 10 yd"

and the other states that the contents are

"chopped off here-20-18 wxd ctn cr 10 yd waxed 8 wick 10 yds"

i suppose Yids are yards and Wixds are waxed? ::)

help???

confused, mary jennets

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Post by mary_jennets on Oct 28th, 2004, 3:58pm

no dice? the chopped off bit might be a W.

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Post by Vickie on Oct 28th, 2004, 7:03pm

I use 16ounce apoth. jars with j223 and 2htp-104

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Post by dillypooh on Oct 28th, 2004, 10:33pm

This is so great. I am new and I posted a new post but I cant find it so I did it wrong LOL. I am starting to do pillars and I am lost. I have a 3x4, 3x6 and 3x9 seamless mold and I am lost about the wicks. I want to use pretabbed wicks because I dont understand the concept of the other wicks. Cant figure out what u do with the part of wick sticking out of the bottom of the mold. I am sorry I sound so stupid but its because I am. Anyone care to help a LOST SOUL? :'(

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Post by ChaChing on Nov 7th, 2004, 10:27pm

Hey, check out this site

http://www.candlewic.com/candle-wicks/default.asp

It has a lot of info on wicks & even a "custom wick builder" option.

I found it very helpful

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Post by mattwats on Dec 14th, 2004, 10:16pm

Hi,

I've just finished my testing with EcoSoya CB-135 and EcoSoya PB.

4oz Tin - LX18

8oz Tin - LX30

16oz Tin - 2x LX18

12oz Libbey 7313 Container - LX30

20oz Libbey 7314 Container - 3x LX22

Votive - LX8

2" Pillar - LX12

3" Pillar - LX22

4" Pillar - 3x LX18

6" Pillar - 3x LX26

All tins are from Specialty Bottle.

Matthew

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Post by vatu on Dec 17th, 2004, 10:42pm

Love this idea!! I am new at this as well. I use 10, 16, and 24 oz apothecary jars. J223 is my wax and I double wick them with HTP 83. Love them, no soot, smoking or left over wax. I have a 5 oz I am testing and the htp 83 seems to be ok. I use 6228 for my pillars 3x4 and 3x6 round and I use lx20 love the self-trimming aspect, but not to happy with the melt pool, thinking about trading up to 22 or 24. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!! I also make votives and I use rrd 29, which I love. Great scent throw on them!

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Post by DanaE on Dec 20th, 2004, 2:15pm

I'll add my .02 to this thread :)

Votives -

4794 -HTP 31's

OK6228 - CD6's

Soy votives - CD8's

Pillars -

OK6228 3" - 51C, Hemp 1400 or CD16 and CD18

4" - CD20 and low smoke zinc 15

3 wick 6" pillar - 44-28-18C, HTP 83's

1274 Mottling Wax - 3" - low smoke zinc 21's

AWE Soy Pillar Blend - 3" pillars - low smoke zinc 19

Containers

KyParasoy - 3 ounce straight sided glass votives - HTP52

KyParasoy - 8 ounce Jelly jars - CD7's

KyParasoy - 16 oz. jars - 2 CD7's

JoyWax - 3" 1 lb paint cans - low smoke zinc 21s

JoyWax - 5" pails - 2 CD 7s

5" gel pies - 2 CD 12's

5" pies made with OK6228 and embeds- 2 CD 10's

Cinnamon buns with 4794 (approx. 4") HTP 73's work perfectly in these

That's all I can think of at the moment :)

DanaE

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Post by helkitty on Dec 25th, 2004, 1:29pm

Which wicks tend to give less mushrooming? Its ugly.

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Post by MOOdY_Gurl on Jan 1st, 2005, 3:12pm

I know the HTP wicks are wonderful. I use IGI waxes, so I definitely know that they recommend HTP for use with their blended waxes.

MOOdY Gurl

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Post by bugfish69 on Jan 12th, 2005, 7:21am

I have not tested most things enough to be confident about posting. I have tested the Astorlite PQ, F, and G in 2" pillars. I really like the RRD-37!!! If it leave a shell at all it is usualy thinner than paper and is easily brused off once the candle is cooled. Also, there is no dripping or spilling of the wax. The wax is completely consumed as the candle burns.

I wish they all burned this way!!!

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Post by helkitty on Jan 18th, 2005, 3:14pm

8 ounce Jelly - 44z

Pint Mason - 51z or 60z for heavier FO's

Pint wide mouth mason - HTP 104

Votives - 36 or 44z

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Post by Betty-NOLA on Jan 22nd, 2005, 4:54pm

I've been making votives and jars for about 6 years now. Here is what works for me:

IGI 4794 (votive) 44-32-18z & LX12

J223 (container) 8oz. & 16oz regular mouth 44-32-18z

J223 (container) 16oz. wide mouth 51-32-18z

All of my votives and containers burn completely down to only the metal tab w/nothing on sides. I also give a typed list of instructions to my customers w/do and don't. They appreciate that cause their candles burn better & longer when done properly!!!

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Post by ce1 on Feb 14th, 2005, 12:22pm

4045 151 mp wax

3x6.5 Round & Square Mold-30 ply

4x4.5, 4x6.5, 4x9.5 Round- 36 ply

j300

6oz LX18

10oz LX14 (2)

4oz Mason Jar LX12

:)

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Post by RiverMom on Feb 28th, 2005, 6:08am

:) Hi Everyone!

Does anybody know if RRD-40 will work for an EcoSoya PB 3" pillar? I've been using them in my 3" soy containers but do get some mushrooming and soot. :(

The RRD-40 and a sample pack of LX is all I have on hand, as I am brand new. But if someone knows something that will work better, I'd be glad to order it.

Thank you all for your kindness in sharing your knowledge!

:D

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Post by sactonewbie on Mar 3rd, 2005, 9:19pm

thank you everyone for all the suggestions, i cant wait to try out new wicks and wax, i feel like a lost puppy, since all i knew before this was the poor selection at michaels. i had no idea what i was getting into when i started this 3 weeks ago!!

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Post by Andy23 on Mar 7th, 2005, 12:27pm

Well, it's been just a little over an hr and this is what I see...

26oz Apoths + 15oz honeypots...

604418z-burning the nicest-no mushr, burning slowest ,melt pool 1". (Although during 1st 10 min they were smoking and flame way too high.)

HTP105-beautiful flame, MP 1", and burning a bit faster than zinc.

513218c-same as HTP, except burning down the fastest.

3" pillars...

3/0-seems too be burning the nicest I think.MP 1"

442818c + HTP83- MP .75"

#3-MP 1", but flame too high and smoking a lot.

What do you think?

Thanks again,

Andy

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Post by cloe98 on Mar 31st, 2005, 9:13am

Hello all. I am new to this board and see alot of great suggestions. However, my biggest problem isn't with the size of the wick. I make my own. My biggest problem I have encountered is what I can use to keep the wick staying straight. I have used clothespins. However, when the hole for a container candle is wider than a clothespin. What can I use. I have gone to the local dollar store and gotten shidh kabob sticks. I use them for both sturing but also I take two of them and cut them longer than the mouth of the container and tape the two sticks together on one side. I then slip the wick between the two sticks and then tape the other end together. The problem I encounter is when I cut the tape to get the wick out I end up with an imperfect product. Since the wax is soft and a single pour type. This makes it difficult to end up with a perfect candle. Any suggestions?

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Post by jchernyb on Mar 31st, 2005, 9:22am

I use a popcicle stick with a hole drilled in the middle of it. I pull the wick up thru the hole and then use a clothespin to secure it. Works really well for me.

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Post by cloe98 on Apr 2nd, 2005, 3:36pm

Thanks I'll try that. That wasn't something I thought of.

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Post by Reginalynn on Apr 12th, 2005, 7:12am

Another newbie questions. I have read all 5 pages on this topic. It has been soo helpful. I have noticed all the different styles of wicks such as zink, lx, cd, and paper core. I need to start testing some votives. I use straight 135 melt point paraffin with about 1oz FO per lb wax. Could someone suggest what brand to start testing with? :-/ Thanks

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Post by Andy23 on Apr 15th, 2005, 8:24am

I use 36-24-24z in all the votives I've tested so far and they are perfect. :)

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Post by homesklmom22 on May 30th, 2005, 11:40am

I am testing new fo's in 8oz square mason jars with no luck. I am testing fig and melon and fresh linen and have used 60z(the largest one) and HTP 105 and 126. Taking 5-6 hours to get a good melt pool with slight hang up on the sides. This is also not the first burn it is about the 4th. I am using 4627 comfort blend wax. Any suggestions?

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Post by mizbizzyb on May 30th, 2005, 1:55pm

I am a newbie also. I am testing the 4627 as well and it does take quite a while to get a full melt pool. I notice the color makes a difference also. So I am back to the testing board. But yeah, 5-6 hours for a full melt pool is about right for me also. I am testing tins.

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Post by Elizabeth on Jun 6th, 2005, 11:32pm

on 05/30/05 at 13:55:54, mizbizzyb wrote:

I am a newbie also. I am testing the 4627 as well and it does take quite a while to get a full melt pool. I notice the color makes a difference also. So I am back to the testing board. But yeah, 5-6 hours for a full melt pool is about right for me also. I am testing tins.

oh wow! what size container are you all using?? 4627 is about one of the lowest mp waxes out there and there's no way it should take 5-6 hrs for a full meltpool unless you are using a large diameter container that is drastically underwicked!

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Post by mizbizzyb on Jun 7th, 2005, 5:07pm

on 05/30/05 at 13:55:54, mizbizzyb wrote:

I am a newbie also. I am testing the 4627 as well and it does take quite a while to get a full melt pool. I notice the color makes a difference also. So I am back to the testing board. But yeah, 5-6 hours for a full melt pool is about right for me also. I am testing tins.

the 8 oz tins is what i am testing

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Post by agentelrond on Jun 25th, 2005, 11:43am

this may sound weird but more uk stuff on here as there isnt much around on here i have noticed

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Post by SatinDucky on Jun 26th, 2005, 1:21am

on 06/25/05 at 11:43:05, agentelrond wrote:

this may sound weird but more uk stuff on here as there isnt much around on here i have noticed

This thread is actually for tried and tested wick, wax, size combinations. To eventually make a compiled chart of what work, someday, hopefully ;D

Other comment/suggestions should be placed in a new thread on the general board ;)

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