Cindys Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Is thier a huge differance between this wax as far as the texture of the votives. When I used the V1 they just slide out of my molds.I really want to try this wax so I can order every thing from CS.Are the HT and CT the same as V1? Any help would be great.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess05 Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Is thier a huge differance between this wax as far as the texture of the votives. When I used the V1 they just slide out of my molds.I really want to try this wax so I can order every thing from CS.Are the HT and CT the same as V1? Any help would be great..I am so glad you asked this question...look forward to hearing the answers!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindys Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 Anyone know anything?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandlekrazy Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 All I can tell you is V1 stinks IMO. I've never tried 474. I use Cargill's C3 and I've used C1, but I don't like their votive wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat88 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 I ordered some Golden Brands 416 & 474. It should be here today so, I'll let you know what I find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Ditto about V1, I switched to EcoSoya PB which I like much better. I have not used GB 474 so I can't compare... HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat88 Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 I ordered some Golden Brands 416 & 474. It should be here today so, I'll let you know what I find out.I made my first batch of votives yesterday with GB 474. When I unmolded, they literally slid effortlessly out of the mold and have a beautiful creamy smooth texture! I love this wax! I used straight 474 to test. I will let you know more when I add FO and color. There was no need for re-pour on all but one and that was one I deliberately left unwicked. I'm going to try my boyfriend's drill press for ease of wicking and will let you know how that turns out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Will be interesting to see how the burn tests come out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I love candles Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I made some melts this weekend with the 474 and also had no problem getting them out of the mold. The problem I am having is when I went to melt them in the tart warmer, I couldn't get the wax to completely melt. I had a melt pool of approx. 2 inches but the wax was solidified around that.I then tried to do a blend of 75% C3 and 25% 474 and it helped a little bit but I still didn't get a full melt pool. Does anyone have any ideas on what happened or how to fix this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 when I went to melt them in the tart warmer, I couldn't get the wax to completely melt.What kind of tart warmer are you using and what kind of container (if any) are you using on it? C3 will melt if it sits in my hands for too long! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandlekrazy Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I made some melts this weekend with the 474 and also had no problem getting them out of the mold. The problem I am having is when I went to melt them in the tart warmer, I couldn't get the wax to completely melt. I had a melt pool of approx. 2 inches but the wax was solidified around that.I then tried to do a blend of 75% C3 and 25% 474 and it helped a little bit but I still didn't get a full melt pool. Does anyone have any ideas on what happened or how to fix this?And how big are the melts? I can't believe you're having a problem with any of these waxes. I make palm tarts, 1 oz that completely melt, and palm has a higher melt point than soy. I do use the heating plate electric warmers that have the dish on top. Even my candle warmers will completely melt them and that doesn't get quite as hot as the warming plate burners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I love candles Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Maybe I am not calling it the right thing. I was using one of the warmers where you light the tealight at the bottom and put the melt in the ceramic top part of the holder. The tart is 1" by 2" (I used a mini-muffin pan). Thanks for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I love candles Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Here is a picture of a warmer that is similar to the one I am using. I am not sure why I am having trouble either - I use C3 in my containers and don't have this problem. Of course I have a customer who wants melts and I run into this issue of not a full melt pool! Argh!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindys Posted January 15, 2008 Author Share Posted January 15, 2008 I have found out that it is not the melt, it is that the tealite itself, that is not hot enough to melt the melt.I buy those cheap ones to use for my burners. Its not cost effective for me to make plain tealits for this.Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I love candles Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 I had never thought of that but I do the same thing - buy the cheap ones in bulk. Thanks so much for that suggestion!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat88 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 I made my first batch of votives yesterday with GB 474. When I unmolded, they literally slid effortlessly out of the mold and have a beautiful creamy smooth texture! I love this wax! I used straight 474 to test. I will let you know more when I add FO and color. There was no need for re-pour on all but one and that was one I deliberately left unwicked. I'm going to try my boyfriend's drill press for ease of wicking and will let you know how that turns out.Well, I just lit one of my new votives w/GW 474! I had planned on allowing to cure for at least 48 hours but, I've been sitting here at the computer and can smell it from here. Thus, I couldn't take it any longer ! I should have wicked one size up but it is still doing well considering. It has good hot throw. I used a small amount of Candlescience's Moon Lake Musk, which is well below the recommended amount and I'm surprised it has such a good throw. But, I love the scent of just a plain soy candle burning, that soft natural scent of soy, IMO, is very nice. So, I thought I'd go light on the FO and see. I think it smells very good and I notice just a hint of the soy itself throwing, which I really like. Others might not notice this but I do, guess that's just 'cause I'm hooked on making soy candles!!! I'll let you know how the burn test turns out especially considering I should have used larger wick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bthouse Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Well, I just lit one of my new votives w/GW 474! I I'll let you know how the burn test turns out especially considering I should have used larger wick.Which wick did you decide on for these votives? I just got this wax and and bunch of new wicks and am ready to test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat88 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Which wick did you decide on for these votives? I just got this wax and and bunch of new wicks and am ready to test I currently use CSN wicks. On the votive, I used CSN 9 but should have wicked up one size. I have about 7-8 hours in this votive with probably 4-5 more hours left. I would like to get at least 15 hrs out of my votive but not sure if that is going to work for me yet on this one. I'll keep you posted. I used CSN Moon Lake Musk and since this was just for me, I decided to go light on the FO (3/4 tsp.) For this low amount of FO, I'm getting a good CT & HT that is just a good light aroma filling my kitchen and living room. Honestly, can't believe that you could even smell it with this low amount but, it worked for me. I do love working with the 474 wax. I tried the 416 and found that I do not like pouring at low temps, just don't have the patience for it. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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