Josette50 Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Been reading alot but just cant figure out if Vybar and the Universal Additive are the same? Any help would be appreciated Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laura9259 Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 I've used both and never noticed any difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 They're completely different substances but they accomplish roughly the same thing. They will harden the wax, make it more opaque looking, and increase fragrance retention.The usage rate for Universal Additive is higher than for Vybar. For instance, in a fragranced pillar you might use 1/2 or 1 teaspoon Vybar 103 versus 2 teaspoons of UA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josette50 Posted February 26, 2007 Author Share Posted February 26, 2007 Thanks abunch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candlenose Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 But..........if you use too much you can actually bind the scent. So dont think if a little will enhance the scent maybe a little more will make it better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 But..........if you use too much you can actually bind the scent. So dont think if a little will enhance the scent maybe a little more will make it better.Oh so true. However, I can't stand UA lol. It doesn't matter if I use one bead or 10 or 1/4 tsp etc. ... it causes terrible fingernailing on my candles. Some find it cool and I just don't want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margaritamama Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 However, I can't stand UA lol. It doesn't matter if I use one bead or 10 or 1/4 tsp etc. ... it causes terrible fingernailing on my candles. Some find it cool and I just don't want it.Have to agree with Scented on this one...... UA makes for some FUGLY candles!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 I've used UA with all kinds of wax and had no problems at all. If you have problems I would guess it's from using too little. 2 teaspoons per pound is usually about right and that's the minimum. I've used plenty more.UA is actually 2 additives, microcrystalline wax and polyethylene (luster crystals or gloss poly). The polyethylene content is maybe 10 to 20%, so if you put in even one whole teaspoon it's like using only a small fraction of a teaspoon of gloss poly. Enough to modify the wax very noticeably (it doesn't take much) but maybe not enough to keep the crystals from shearing apart and making fingernails.IGI recommends an addition rate of 2 to 5%. It's unlikely you'd put in enough to "bind the scent" or anything. This stuff is completely different from Vybar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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