shutterbugg Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Why in the world does paypal allow this to happen without even letting the other person know? And why would you order from a co-op, pay for your stuff and then 9 days later do a reversal with no explanation.... UGGGGGGGGGGG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpowell Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Paypal reversals are usually only allowed for items not received disputes. I have dealt with a few of those and had to provide a bunch of information in order to get them fixed. Anyway, if you have stuff to get rid of please let me know I may take some of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kymber Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 I didn't think Paypal did reversals that fast. You usually have to prove your case and the other person has to answer to whatever the complaint is. Did they give you a reason of WHY they reversed it? I am going to bet that they ran it and maybe the person didn't have the funds to pay it........and whatever CC they had on file was maxed. Kinda like they wrote you a bad check?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shutterbugg Posted February 18, 2007 Author Share Posted February 18, 2007 Actually this person paid with instant cash. It was in my account, i transferred all that to my bank to buy the oils. they took it out of my bank account. Thats how i saw it. They didnt give any reason, just said reversal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candlesprite7 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Guess they dont want their oils....geez...atleast they could contact you if something happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashlie K Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Heres their toll free number at Paypal.1-888-221-1161 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockmonkey Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 That happened to me one time. As far as I could tell Paypal reverses first, and asks questions later. All someone has to do is say they never got an item and poof your money is gone.The person never contacted me to ask where their item was or anything. They went straight to Paypal. So that tells me either they are quite a scammer and know how to play the system, or else they have been ripped off before and won't take any chances now. They don't have any burden or proof other than to make an accusation. Meanwhile, you have to scrounge up any receipts or tracking numbers you can find to offer proof. So, never send anything to a stranger without a tracking number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shutterbugg Posted February 18, 2007 Author Share Posted February 18, 2007 WEll thankfully i havent sent her oils yet... hell i just got them in.... I know i can get rid of the oils she ordered, thats not the problem. Its the fact that they took MY money.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luci Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 My experience with Paypal was the opposite. I filed a claim because of not ever having received the goods. It took at least 6 weeks to get the $$ back, and they kept $25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judyvega Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 WEll thankfully i havent sent her oils yet... hell i just got them in.... I know i can get rid of the oils she ordered, thats not the problem. Its the fact that they took MY money....That sucks. Guess you know who NOT to allow in your co-ops from now on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shutterbugg Posted February 18, 2007 Author Share Posted February 18, 2007 That sucks. Guess you know who NOT to allow in your co-ops from now on!Yep and everyone else will know also! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luci Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Does this mean there will be an ad in the classifieds for those of us who may be thinking we should have ordered more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judyvega Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Yep and everyone else will know also!That's only fair! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridith Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 And the person never told you they were doing a reversal? Have you had any contact with them to know why? Maybe they had some kind of emergency and needed the money? But geesh, a warning would have been nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shutterbugg Posted February 18, 2007 Author Share Posted February 18, 2007 Nope never heard anything from her. I did see that this was done on the 15th, and her last log in date was the 16th. So there was plenty of time to let me know what was going on. Everyone here knows that if something comes up as long as you talk to me i will work with you. All she had to do was say something to me. Hell i could have refunded the money and sold her oils if she needed the money that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridith Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Well Damn Shutter, if I had goons, I'd send them after her. LOL I'm so sorry to hear this happened to you. On the flip side, I'll bet you can sell those oils and butters with no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kymber Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 I am still thinking that when the instant transfer was presented to her bank for payment the funds were not there and so it bounced back to Paypal....they would have resubmitted and it probably bounced back again......so then it was charged back to you as a reversal? OR at that point they could of tried to charge it to her back up CC on her PayPal account and that maybe was denied also. Paypal usually does not do a reversal unless their is a complaint and usually then only after investigating........ But if the funds were not their then they would do an immediate reversal. I would definately give paypal a call and see what their explanation is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapmom25 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 this is my biggest gripe about PP. They did something similar to me ~ deducted a sale from my account that was like 6 months after the fact because the customer disputed the charge on her credit card because she didn't recognize the payee.Ironically at the time there was actually money in the account because most of the time I keep it cleaned out. They definitely act first and ask questions later and I had to jumps through numerous "hoops" to their action reversed. I was assumed wrong until I proved I was right ~ very annoying!Our regular merchant treated the same situation entirely differently ~ contacted us and requested info first, then reviewed the situation. PP took the money first and "held" it while they investigated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shutterbugg Posted February 19, 2007 Author Share Posted February 19, 2007 This issue has beeen resolved! Woohoooo just a mistake by their bank, but im still pissed at paypal for doing it with out any communication with me!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorrie Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 This issue has beeen resolved! Woohoooo just a mistake by their bank, but im still pissed at paypal for doing it with out any communication with me!!!So it wasn't acually someone that was in your co-op?? It was the banks fault? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebecca Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 The way paypal is now, with how much money they collect on reversals, seems to me that they encourage those reversals. If they are constantly doing these w/out telling people, acting fast (which sounds like that is the only time they are speedy) and collecting the $25.00 that's a huge scam on paypal's side. I really hate using them.Glad you got it worked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 DANG! I was hoping I was going to be able to get in on some of those oils!! Well, I'm glad it was all worked out and not some shady person who took their money and ran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystala25 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 I know this thread was a few weeks ago, but I just had the same thing happen to me this morning. The money was all there, I was waiting on a shipping payment so that I can ship the items and now there is a reversal and a hold on the money. If it does go through again, I'm now afraid to ship it because what if I ship it and it gets reversed again, at least this time I haven't shipped the items yet. I have sent messages to this person, but no response, what should I do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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