LauraInNY Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I have begun doing my website and have gotten to the shopping cart dilema. I have been doing some research and thought I had it all figured out. Ya right...I was going to host thru go-daddy and use mal's e-commerce for my shopping cart and propay premium for my merchant (cuz I wanted the manual credit card payment option). Then I saw I could only use paypal for the free cart from mal's so I thought okay i'll upgrade to mal's premium and use propay. So I'm looking at the list on mal's premium and there's no propay listed. I knew it couldn't be that easy. By the time I add up all the fees for the monthly stuff and then add in the % plus fee they charge for each transaction, I might as well go ahead and use the DIY website and get all the perks for $20/month ($16 if you pay by the year).I guess what has been holding me back from the DIY sites is going with "kind of" an unknown server and wondering what the traffic flow is like. I know the sites look great and I can use my own graphics and a lot of people here use them. I guess I'm not questioning the site building, cuz I know I can do that, but what's the service like after you are up and running? Server down time? Traffic? etc, etc, etc... I still won't get my manual CC payment, though I could add it on after it gets running and I find I really need it.Sorry so long, but I would appreciate any help you all can give...I think I'm going to be bald soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinInOR Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I was going to host thru go-daddy and use mal's e-commerce for my shopping cart and propay premium for my merchant (cuz I wanted the manual credit card payment option). Then I saw I could only use paypal for the free cart from mal's so I thought okay i'll upgrade to mal's premium and use propay. So I'm looking at the list on mal's premium and there's no propay listed. I knew it couldn't be that easy.Don't know anything about DIY, but the mal's/propay thing - No shopping carts are going to mention propay. It's a really expensive extra thing to link directly into Propay automatically from a website - they charge extra for that interface. If you wanted to do CC from Mal's, you just check the box in the Mals admin section that you want to take CC. Then if someone selects that, the information is stored securely on Mal's site. Once you get the order, you sign in to Mal's, collect the CC information, then sign in to Propay's site and reenter the info to actually charge the card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudsnwicks Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Once you get the order, you sign in to Mal's, collect the CC information, then sign in to Propay's site and reenter the info to actually charge the card.Would this be considered manual credit card i.e. requiring the premium propay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinInOR Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Yes, this is all manual. The only reason you'd need premium propay is if you go over their monthly/per charge total $ limit, or want to take Discover/American Express. If you're just starting out taking cc, go with the regular account. If you find you're getting huge orders, you can always upgrade to premium.Mal's has a premium cart service too I think, but I never looked at it. I think one of the things it offers is direct links into UPS/USPS shipping, but not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LauraInNY Posted May 23, 2006 Author Share Posted May 23, 2006 Thanks for responding to the Mal's question, Robin. So to have propay automatically do the credit card thing, it's way expensive. However, to get around that we can have Mal's collect cc info and then I would enter it manually (via phone) through propay. (I am assuming that manually means through the phone, if I am wrong, please let me know.) Unfortunately, according to the link below it says that you can't do the phone processing unless you have the premium account.http://www.propay.com/cgi/appProcess1.exe/tier_detailRegarding the Mal's premium pkg, it costs another $8.00/mo, quarterly in advance: "...Premium is an upgrade which adds features which are designed primarily for busy merchants, for example: automated card processing batch download of orders, direct access to UPS and USPS rates calculators plus a little bit more influence over the look of the cart. You can switch the status of your account between free and Premium any time you wish and without making any changes to your website."I wish someone would chime in about their experience with DIY, here's the link to their features: http://www.diyestores.com/info.htmThanks for all the help... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinInOR Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 You can do it through the phone with the Propay premium, or just wait until you get near a computer to do it on their website. The phone thing is nice but kind of slow, especially at a fair that might be busy. In 4 years I've never gotten stuck with a bad credit card payment run after the transaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hewells Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I was going to go with DIY then decided to try out wahmshoppes first, they link to mal's also and its like $7.00 a month for hosting. I think you can pay for the year for 84.00I was going to tell you the same thing about using cc's with mal's, but Robin explained it really well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverStreetDesigns Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Actually with both DIY and WAHM Shoppes, you can collect the credit card info securely to process manually with ProPay (online). You do not need to use Mals at all with either of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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