spatreats4u Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 ok so i am sure its been discussed a million times...i tried reading the sticky but i dont know what to get. i need a pres. for my scrubs. Please help me:embarasse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwahlton Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 It depends on what you're wanting. Here's a good part of that stickie. I use Liquipar OptimaThe BreakdownIf your formula contains water, you can use: Germaben II - less than 25% oil Germaben II-E - more than 25% oil Germall Plus Liquid Germall Plus Phenonip Liquapar PE Liquapar OptimaOptiphen Optiphen PlusIf your formula contains only oils, butters and waxes and does not contain water but there is a possibility that the consumer could introduce water into the product, you can use: Phenonip Liquapar PE Liquapar Optima Liquapar Oil Optiphen Optiphen PlusIf your formula contains only oils, butters and waxes and does not contain water, you do not need a preservative, but I would highly recommend one. If the end user stores the product in the bath room or any humid environment, humidity can get in the product and cause bacterial, fungus, or yeast growth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spatreats4u Posted May 16, 2006 Author Share Posted May 16, 2006 thank you---my product does not contain water however i started thinking it might be a good idea to add since its a shower product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniedb Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 I use LiquaPar Optima for my scrubs, it's recommended when you have all oils/butters and no water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spatreats4u Posted May 16, 2006 Author Share Posted May 16, 2006 I use LiquaPar Optima for my scrubs, it's recommended when you have all oils/butters and no water.how much should i add with a batch that makes 16oz...i am not sure about the percentages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candlebean Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 I use LiquaPar Optima for my scrubs, it's recommended when you have all oils/butters and no water.Sorry, but I have to jump on this preservative question bandwagon too...I've been searching and searching for the answers but I must be putting in the wrong search words. I'm looking for a preservative for my lip balms. There isn't any water added. I went to WSP to see if any of the descriptions made sense for what I was doing, and I just ended up with more questions...Per WSP, Liquipar oil was recommended for lip products, but it said that for complex formulas to use Liquipar Optima...so what qualifies for a complex recipe? I found a lip balm recipe with a bunch of ingredients (more than 6 or 7 anyway) does that qualify as complex? As a newbie to B&B, everything is complex :rolleyes2 Second question is, at what point do you add the preservative? The instructions on WSP said to add the Liquipar Optima at the coolest temp...if the butters are melted in the microwave do you just let them cool off and then add it? Then if your concoction starts to harden before you get them all poured, is it still safe to remelt for a few seconds in the microwave?I truely apologize for all of the questions but I can't find the answers to them anywhere. I think I need a B&B intervention team to come to my house for a hug LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwahlton Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 I don't know why you want a preservative for a lip balm. You have to follow the manufacturers recommendations as far as usage goes. Personally I do the 1% so for a 16 ounce scrub that would be .16 of an ounceSecond question is, at what point do you add the preservative? The instructions on WSP said to add the Liquipar Optima at the coolest temp...if the butters are melted in the microwave do you just let them cool off and then add it? Then if your concoction starts to harden before you get them all poured, is it still safe to remelt for a few seconds in the microwave?I would recommend following the manufacturers instructions instead of WSP. It depends on what you're using. Some give you specific temps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniedb Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 From ISP's website:ApplicationsFor use in a broad range of applications; especially effective in emulsions.Soluble in commonly used solvents and can be easily incorporated into most formulations; in aqueous systems, a co-solvent or surfactant may be needed to help solubilize the preservative.Can be used to preserve a wide range of leave-on and rinse-off products.Can be used in a pH range of 3.0-7.5.Recommended for use in personal care products at levels between 0.5-1.0%.Higher levels of LiquaPar Optima may be required in formulations with higher levels of non-ionics and proteins since these compounds are known to interfere with parabens.Although Phenoxyethanol is slightly volatile, LiquaPar Optima is stable at temperatures up to 85°C, but it is always best to add preservatives at the coolest possible temperature.For cold mixed systems, add LiquaPar Optima early in the process to allow for adequate mixing.So, your answers are: add it at a rate of .5% to 1%, which for 16 ounces would make it .08 to .16 ounces...however, make sure you're only weighing your OILS and BUTTERS and not your sugar with that, it will skew the percentage. And apparently, add it under 85* C. I usually add it at room temp. Feel free to ask more, HTH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crafty1_AJ Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 I use Liquipar Optima in my scrubs too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaiiansun Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I don't use a preservative in my lip balms, I just put a few drops of Vit E in to extend the shelf life and Vit E on a label always looks good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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