Granjan Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Hi everyone,I am going to pour sage leaf FO from Lone Star Candle CO. with soy 125 wax from Candlewic. Any suggestions on size of wick I could use. I just received from Lone Star their master wick kit so I should have a wick that should work.Thank you for your help,Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granjan Posted February 7, 2006 Author Share Posted February 7, 2006 Sorry, I am so new to message boards and candles.I forgot to give measurement of tin.1 5/8" ht X 2 1/4" diaIs there a formula I could use in the future to figure out what wick to use?Again thanks for your help and patience!!!Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 That's a nice wick kit. Try an ECO 2 as a starting point.There's no formula whatsoever and no chart you can count on. The best guide if you are guessing is experience, which you'll get over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granjan Posted February 8, 2006 Author Share Posted February 8, 2006 Thank you, Topofmurrayhill! I appreicate your reply and will keep right on guessing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Top...were u at one time testing a ECO 14 in a 8oz tin and posting pics?I thought I read that somewhere. If so....how did that work out for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Top...were u at one time testing a ECO 14 in a 8oz tin and posting pics?I thought I read that somewhere. If so....how did that work out for you?Yes. Having to use an ECO 14 seemed a little extreme so I ditched the wax (C-3). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Yikes! I just wicked one with an ECO14 and another with LX 28! I just got some kewl tins at SKS and wanted to try them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Yikes! I just wicked one with an ECO14 and another with LX 28! Using CB-Advanced? That doesn't seem right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 ARRGGHH!! Eco 12 maybe? Close? Starting to feel like a Masochist..I keep changing my containers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witch61 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Granjan,Good to hear from you. Let us know how the new travel tin project goes. GOOD LUCK:yay: WITCH61 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 ARRGGHH!! Eco 12 maybe? Close? Starting to feel like a Masochist..I keep changing my containers.I have only tested the second (discontinued) version of CBA, but I think the stardard version melts quite easily also. So if you're not adding anything to the wax I would think an ECO 10 could easily do a 3 inch tin. It might even be too much at the bottom when things start getting hot.Of course we all see variations in our results so you have to see what works for you. I'm also not sure if you're using exactly the same CBA I tried. It just struck me that ECO 14 seemed kind of out of whack.It can get a little tedious to try one wick at a time. I would suggest maybe invest some wax and try 8/10/12 side by side so you can get a better overview of the wicking possibilities. Sometimes there's more than one right answer depending on what you prefer. Use them all up because you will see a HUGE difference in how a tin burns at the top versus the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granjan Posted February 9, 2006 Author Share Posted February 9, 2006 Hi everyone,Well, I poured my 4 oz tins today and they look wonderful. Now on Monday I test burn them and see what happens!!!! Tops are so smooth. Not like the jars I have been doing.Top, I used a ECO2 as you suggested in one. Then I used a ECO4 and RRD34 in the other two.I also have been working on frosted blub jars since August. 3.5 oz 5 oz and 16 oz I probably picked the hardest jars in the world just starting out but I loved the looks of them. Of course, I didn't know my head from a whole in the ground, just bought everything and started pouring. I have never gotten the wick quite right. So I tired pouring them again with different size wicks today, also. They are all being discontinued from Candlewic but I have lots so I want to get them right. No large ones, just 3.5 oz and 5 oz.I have learned so much from all of you that maybe I just might make it someday!!!!!And the info I am getting on the 8 oz tin is great with this thread, thank you!!!! Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granjan Posted February 15, 2006 Author Share Posted February 15, 2006 OK OK OK!!! I tested my 4 oz tins. ECO2 and ECO4 was a no for sure. The RRD34 was pretty good but didn't clean the sides of tin. So I am going to repour tins today and wick up. My question is, I was thinking of adding some BW to my repour. The soy 125 that I am using is very soft and was thinking BW would give it some substance. Don't know if I am right or wrong. Remember I am a newbie!! What I do know is that I will use this wax for my tins and I have ordered CB135 from CS to try on my buld jars. This is based on what I have read in this thread (thank you once again) it might make my jars do better. So back to my question:undecided I have 22.8 ozs of wax to repour. What would be an amount of BW to use? I read yesterday on this thread that .3 oz per lb of soy wax is a good ratio. So I was just thinking I would add .3 oz to 22.8 ozs I have and see how it works. Good or bad thing to do!!! Any suggestions.My orginial amount of wax was 30.21 oz of soy 125 and 1.59 FO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Thanks TOP! I have used a CD12 and CD14 and LX26. I know what you are thinking...too big... but its working out good for me. Burning faster than I would like I think. I will however try going lower to see what happens. Cause..you know how it is...YOU ARE PRETTY MUCH ALWAYS RIGHT! he heJanet when I added Bw to my mixture I had to up the wicks. I don't know if you will have to. With these tins you really do have to wait till the bottom of the can to know your results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 posted twice...sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granjan Posted February 15, 2006 Author Share Posted February 15, 2006 Soya,Thanks. I will wick up and wait for the total burn. Appreicate your help.I also sent a reply to your post Something I learned. The Comparing Scent Throw in Candles was very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 OK OK OK!!! I tested my 4 oz tins. ECO2 and ECO4 was a no for sure. The RRD34 was pretty good but didn't clean the sides of tin. So I am going to repour tins today and wick up.Just curious, what is the diameter of your tin? That is supposed to be a really small container. I know each wax burns differently but I feel maybe something isn't adding up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsami3000x Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Hi everyoneThis week I poured my first candles. (I have to say they came out great).4 oz tins from Peaks 2 1/2 in diameter by almost 1 3/4 in tallCB 135peak cucumber melonlx 14 wickHeated to 150 =/- 5 degreesadded fo at 125poured at 100They burn great but I'm going to wick up, there is a film of wax on sides and it takes closer to 3 hours than 2 1/2 to reach full melt pool. Should the lx 16 wicks solve these problems?Thanks, Sami (newbie) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granjan Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 Hi Top,The diameter of my tin is 2 1/4", 1 3/4 " high, with clear tops. From SKSI use soy 125 that is a blend of soybeans and soybean oil.ratio: 30.21 oz wax, 1.59 oz of FO, and 8 drops of liq dye I heated wax to 180 deg. MI (manufactuers instructions)Added FO at 175Added dye at 170Poured at 150, MICured for 3 daysI did 3 tins and 6 jars.Wicked the tins with ECO2 that you suggested, I chose ECO4 and RRD34 for the other two tins. The ECO's never made it anywhere to the sides. ECO4 got almost there but wasn't clean.But to be honest I didn't burn any of them to the bottom. Soya today told me to make sure I do that. So this this weekend I will.In all the months I have used this wax I have only had it work only with a 16 oz bulb jar when I doubled wicked it. All the rest of the time I have been trying to get it right.So I have ordered CB135 soy from CB and I think that will work much better in my jars and I will use the soy 125 from Candlewic on my tins until it is gone.I am rambling, sorry!!! Top, I would appreicate what you have to say. It is hard being so new and trying to get it right.My re-poured tins today with BW looks good. I will see how they burn this weekend.Xsami300x congradulations on your tins!!!! I hope to be able to say that soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Hi Janet,I don't argue with practical results. Trying stuff to see what works is the way it's done. I was just a little surprised because the 4 oz tins are so small and an ECO 4 is a respectably sized wick. Just be careful that your tops are consistently flat and the wicks trimmed uniformly because those little things can make a world of difference in testing.Using CB-135 I find an ECO 2 does a 4 oz tin easily. In fact I get a full melt pool on the fast side. Maybe you'll find that wax easier to work with.I have some Soy 125 here, but the aesthetic results were a little gruesome when I tried pouring it so I put it aside. Never even got to wicking the stuff. Did you get decent looking tops with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granjan Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 I don't argue with practical results. OH MY, Top, this didn't even enter my mind!!!! :embarasse I was just trying to give you all the info so you would have a better understanding of what I had done. The tops on the tins were the best I had ever seen. I was surprised when I saw them!!!! The jars have never been smooth at all. When I pour on the cool side it was flake like, do you know what I mean. When pouring on the hotter side, I don't know the right word, tiny swiss cheese holes. LOL Hope you know what that is!!!I saw your purple candle on the CBA and CB135 mixing results thread. Thought it looked great. I love purple and someday I hope the tops on my jars look that good. Thanks again for all your help. And I will strive for flat tops and wicks trimmed uniformly. Slowly but surely I am learning from everyone on Candletech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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