The trouble is after I secure the wick in the bottom with some wax, and then when I finish pouring the rest of the wax the wick moves, I tried using a clothespin but it moves then the wick is off centered, I going to try your secound suggestion, it sounds as though it might work a little better. Will the wick pins work in the FPV ? I appreciate the help. Can I ask you another question ? I having trouble with coming up with a mulberry color, cranberry color and a cinnamon color. Can you give me some suggestion for them. I'm using KY pure soy with dye flakes and liquid dyes.