cynthia3030

You are such a kind and generous person. (I assume you mean me)

Because we are such addicts, we want to try everybody's FOs. Peak is one of my favorite suppliers but it is just something that makes us want to feed our craving for more and more and mor scents. Go figure.

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Do you use soy or paraffin wax?

You're right. It was an attempt at humoring you by your refusal to post the question, that's all.

I use a "creme brulee torch" to fix my sink holes. The torch has an adjustable flame and temperature, anti-flare flame, easy to fill with butane fuel, comfort grip handle, removable stand and a safety lock. It works quite efficiently and it takes less than a minute to fix your candle. You can find them at Marshal's or TJMaxx and the like for about $20 or less. I like mine and have used it for many years. The website is bonjourproducts.com.

That's not very nice of you. No, the specific question deals with that huge flame immediately after lighting the candle with the HTP 126 wick, does anyone get the huge fire immedately upon lighting? Is that what you're talking about? Come to think about it, I have a video that I made with my phone that shows what I'm talking about. If you'd like to see what I'm talking about to be sure we are on the same page, PM me your e-mail address and I will send it to you.

Vanilla Vodoo sounds intriguing. Maybe it is because I'm from New Orleans, the home of vodoo.

I have tried the HTP 126 in several 3-inch containers. Each time I got like a four or five inch flame that burned for at least five minutes. I made a video of it burning out of control. To me, it looks like a fire hazard and it is unsafe. I thought it was something I was doing or not doing until you addressed the issue. I would never give or sell anybody a candle that burns like that. Why don't you post that question on the board to members to see if others have the same experience. It would be interesting to find out the results. You are very popular on the forum and a question from you would yield more responses than if I asked the question since I've only been posting for about a week. What I can do and will do is contact Wicks Unlimited Monday or early next week and ask them if the wick should peform in that manner. I really think we should do both. What do you think? Are you in?

You are neat. Please explain the order of your layout. I'm sure you use your utensils and gadgets in the order that you need them. I've been trying to do that without success.

You are neat. Explain the order of your utensils and gadgets. It seems

HorsescentS, to be perfectly honest I don't know. I have three candles going at the same time. I do smell something when I enter the room, but I don't have a clue where it is coming from. I was just so relieved to get the candles burning without causing a towering inferno and smoking so much, I figured I would deal with the HT later. How do you like that gigantic flame on the HTP 126 when you first light it? The first time it happened to me, it scared the daylights out of me and it burned like that for about five minutes. Do I understand you to say that that's a characteristic of the HTP 126? They always start off with that huge flame?

I would appreciate any firsthand experiences, knowledge, opinions, feedback, recommendations, whatever you can share about CANDLE COCOON. Thank you. It is is unfavorable, please feel free to PM me.

Happy Saturday to all! It is a miracle! I solved the problem wth the bad 4627 wax. I used a formula of 90% 4627 and 10% 4794. I am on my second burn and the candles are burning beautifully with no soot, no smoking, no tall flickering flames, no hang-up. I have burned them for about 20 hours in a 2.75 inch container using HTP 83 and LX 16 wicks. I haven't burned the candles where I added the soy because I usually let soy cure longer than paraffin. The candles with the soy added though are pretty with a nice texture and consistency and no wet spots. Remember I said I opened a fresh container of 4627 wax. Guess what? These candles are also burning very well and are not smoking. I didn't add any FO or dye. Apparently this particular box of 4627 wax was deficient and I'm not sure what recourse, if any, that I have. I am going to read through old posts to see how others have dealt with this issue. Thanks very much to everybody for your valuable input.

Sounds like you're describing me. Don't forget all of the give-aways for free!

Welcome. I too lurked around the board much longer than you before I got the nerve to post my first question a couple of days ago. Enjoy!

If you happen to come across some which is very doubtful, I will have the fix so don't worry.

Here is the lot number for the 4627 wax that I feel had too much petrolaum (oil) in it: 1202254 The distributor says he only has a couple of cases of this wax left. HTH

I understand what you are saying but I don't see it getting that far based upon only me voicing problems with the wax. As a matter of fact, I am not sure the distributor sees it as a problem. He said that no one else had expessed any concerns to him about the wax. Frankly speaking, the supplier probably thinks I'm an inexperienced chandler that doesn't know how to properly work with the 4627 wax and the wax burned the way it did because of something I did incorrectly or something I didn't do . I have tons of notes and pictures to support my contention. I even have videos of the candles buring that I make to assist me when I document my results I really don't see this situation going that far especially in light of the fact that IGI has ranges within their specifications. Apparebtly this batch was in the low range for passing quality control.

I love the color blue and my preference is the plain/smooth jar. How do you come up with all of your discoveries?

I have to remember to proofread before I post and not after and to put on my eyeglasses when doing so. Emilyspoppy .. excuse me. Jeanie353 .. excuse me. 484 should be 464 but you all probably knew that.

Hello again to all. Thanks to everyone for your very helpful suggestions. I really appreciate the help. You saved me a lot of time, money and frustration. Here is where I am now. I poured these candles based on you alls suggestions. 4627 (14.4 oz or 90%) and 484 (1.6 oz or 10%) - 6% FO - couple drops of dye 4627 (14.4 oz or 90%) and 4794 (1.6 oz or 10%) - 6% FO - couple drops of dye On a whim I opened another box of 4627 and poured a couple of candles without any FO or dye. I will let the candles set for a while and then burn them. I can report that the candles are very pretty. I like the consistency and texture. The texture and appearance is how they are supposed to look. I am very anxious to do the test burns but I will wait and probably test tomorrow. ChandlerWicks, it was awfully kind of you to pour a sample of the 4627 and soy formula before recommending it. That really helped me with a starting point. Jeanie353, thank you so very much for furnishing the proportions and the pouring temps. That too was very helpful. HorsescentS, thanks for your advice about the beeswax. I didn't have a chance to contact the supplier today to get the lot number for the wax, but I will do it tomorrow and let you know. EmilysPioppy, where do I begin with you. You said I should have posted in another forum. From my observations, after chandlers develop and perfect their product, most of them seem to move on to other formums of interest to them, understandly so. Your explanation of the petrolatum (what I called "oil content") was right on the money. Your suggestion on fixing the problem also seems very logical. We will just have to wait and see. I don't agree with you and HorsescentS that I should provide the supplier's name. It really wasn't his fault and I don't know what he could have done differently because it is an industry-wide policy that refunds and/or exchanges aren't made on wax, to my knowledge. If someone knows differently, please let me know. I have learned a couple of important things from this experience and made a very big decision. More on my big decision in another posting. I don't multi-task very well anymore ... concentrate on and solve one problem at a time. Again, thanks everybody. I will keep you advised of my success or lack thereof. I

Good point. I will try getting the lot number tomorrow. I will let you know either way. My first post opens up Pandora's box. A few other threads appeared regarding 4627 and soy usage at different percents. I have some 464 that I think I will try at 10 percent or so. It just seems logical that 25 percent would change the characteristics too much. Thanks for the info on the beeswax.

I am glad you responded because I know that you are a big fan of 4627 and if there is a solutiion, then surely you have it. I would rather not name the distributor because it is not their fault. The distributor did tell me that as long as wax fell within certain numbers of the specifications on the MSDS, then it was okay to release the product for sale. Haven't you noticed over time different consistencies in your wax?

Hello Everyone, Well, this is my very first post. I tend to be long-winded so I will get right to the point. Just as a little background, I have been pouring candles, as a hobby, for many years. I am being urged by family and friends to sell candles and I truly enjoy the art of candlemaking. Here is my dilemma. My last order of wax, the infamous IGI 4627, was seriously flawed in its formulation. The wax is too oily and I am having an extremely hard time finding a wick that is compatible. I have tried HTP, ECO, LX, Stablio, RRD, and zinc core in various sizes. I even burned the wax without any FO and the wax still smoked a lot then. The flames are far too high and flicker too much and the candles are smoking too much. I spoke with the distributor to see if anyone else was having a problem with this particular lot of wax and they suggested I mix the 4627 wax with 25 percent soy. I am thinking about either beeswax as an additive or a smaller percent of soy. Any and all suggestions, tips, and advice will be greatly appreciated. I realize I will have to perform additional testing, but a starting point would certainly be helpful and prevent me from throwing this wax out of the window. Of course, I have checked older posts but I couldn't find anything where this issue had been discussed. Please excuse me if I am covering old territory. Thank you all very much for your input. (Warned you that I was long-winded and this is short.)