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Hello all, some may remember a few months back my posting about using coconut oil as the main oil for soap bars.  After receiving many helpful posts from the community, I decided to try and can truthfully say I'm glad that I did. It was suggested to take 20% sf ( I had read earlier on another forum that coconut oil was to harsh and shouldn't be used as the main oil for soaping.)   I used my first bar of the soap when cured at 6 weeks and found that at first, it felt odd on my hands, little harsh, but creamy with small bubbles.   Then at 8 weeks of curing, the soap felt really creamy and cleansing with small bubbles; no harshness.  I feel that an 8 week cure for this soap works best for me and I do like the feel of the soap, it will be one of my main soap making recipes from now on.    

I ordered 10 one oz samples of fo from NG, their minimum according to UPS is 10/lb, so I think what Filmore charged you was definitely over the limit

Very pretty as usual. 

It really is!! I had a wholesale customer turn me onto it when she ordered my rustic pillars It was a special request YUM!

Shame we can't smell them sitting at the monitor

Sweet Pomegranate and Orange is to die for...she has a lot of fo's on sale now!!

Sounds interesting

Thank you everyone for your replies, I'm going to make another batch using this mold again, so I'll just have to see what happens.  Might try an all OO recipe and note the results----------- actaully didn't want to have to freeze before unmolding tho thats what I ended up doing

I poured a 3 lb batch of cp soap into a round pvc pipe sprayed with cooking spray and lined with freezer paper and then insulated.   After 12 hours or so, I took the insulation off and let the soap sit in the mold for about 3 days as it was still fairly soft.  I ended up freezing the soap about and hour before I could finally push it out of the mold.      

Does anyone have a better method that they use?  I may end up using pringles and peeling the sides away instead.  Thought about using crisco to grease the inside of the mold and not lining with freezer paper.

Any thoughts, please?  Thank you in adance

Very pretty, they'd sure look great on my mantle

Thanks for the reviews GailC and number2of 7,  your descriptions are great.  I've ordered from Cierra sometime ago, I do remember great customer service, think I'll have to put in an order   

Yes is the short answer to your question.  Paraffin is pretty much the "original" wax, so all FO's created way back when were done so with paraffin in mind.  Fast forward and the world is introduced to soy wax, parasoy wax, palm wax, etc.  Take that and all of the "phthalate" drama, combined with other issues over the years, and the formulation of FO has changed.  While most FO will work in any wax, yes, some still perform better in paraffin than soy.  I've had some oils that just will not bind to parasoy wax, but will with straight paraffin.

 

Suppliers, like Candle Science, still try to give a "soy rating" since that seems to be the finicky wax

Thank you, that makes sense, I use both waxes, but it gets a little tedious when I do want to use soy because I don't have a lot fo's that are guaranteed to work with it.

This has probably been addressed on the board, I apologize in advance if it has been.  Are there some FO 's that work in soy wax or paraffin only or just the fact that one oil may work better in soy or paraffin than another? As long as I've been making candles, I never questioned that until now and I've always tested regardless.

Some online shopping, maybe. Then experimenting with a cp soap recipe and pouring into my pvc pipe mold. AND catching the Christmas movies that've been around this year since Halloween

 beautiful soaps

Thank you for posting. A lot of helpful info, never did I think about the wattage on the warmers having an affect on tarts.   I'm just now trying to make them, I have a scentsy and one BHG i got from Walmart, both plug in the wall, I'm testing a paraffin pillar/gb 464 blend.  The tarts have cured a week and smell strong, but tested in the BHG warmer, 15 watt bulb, and one square melt, the ht wasn't that great, so guess I'll try 2 squares and go from there, they smell so strong in the clamshell tho.

Thanks guys for all  of the replies, gives one a lot to choose from

Love your soaps

I think you mean Christmas Tree.

Thats it, thank you

She was really in the dark because she made it clear after I asked her that she was talking about wax melts and not candles.   She said she had heard that people have problems with soot even with wax melts.  I said I had never heard of that problem and I don't know anyone who has had that problem.

Wow, good for you, thats just unreal

Wow! She is wrong on so many levels...

Triple scented, toxins in paraffin, lead in paper wicks? She also states on her Facebook since her fragrances are skin friendly, they're less toxic...oh my goodness...

I also wonder if she is reusing the jars sent back to her; if she is I'm sorry to say that glass can only be reheated so many times before it will crack!

She seems like a really sweet girl, but you can plain as day see that she has not been making candles long at all...

Not long at all, it seems

Several candle groups I am in on Facebook also are bad about bashing paraffin.  It seems most of them are soy candle makers and I really want to say something also but I just keep shut!  I did once post about the link that was here about waxes but it didn't seem to do any good.  Also seems like a lot of them are new and really don't seem to test.  You see various containers being used and you know they haven't tested them cause they seem to always say look what I found at a garage sale or similar!  Anyway I sometimes think that is why online sales are not what they used to be, people buy some of these candles and they are bad so that puts a bad taste in their mouth for ordering online. Also see a lot of jewelry in candles and some even put money.  I think what in the world, people are so gullible!  Hope no one here is doing that and if you are don't mean to hurt no feelings just don't understand it.  Guess anything to sell!

i use different containers also, but I usually test before a final candle is made in that container,especially if I am giving as gift

I am going to contact the TV station and ask that they broadcast a 'correction' to the story yesterday. I will offer the Okometric study as evidence.

Just makes me crazy.

Wishing you luck, if I understand right, they havene't made wicks with lead in them in years, so one has wonder where their info is coming from.  I personally don't have a preference, I use both waxes and can find good features in both of them, some people don't have enough to do in their day I guess.  Keep us posted please, I'd love to see a video of your broadcast just in case

I haven't really run across a lot of people who wax bash like you guys have.  I do have customers that have said, oh you use soy, it's so much better.  And I let them know it's not better, just different.  The reason I chose it is because it works for me and I love how it looks.

 

I had someone the other day say that soy wax melts are better because they don't let off soot.  I was like huh?   I was so confused.  I said I have never heard that being a problem with any type of wax melts since there's no wick. 

Maybe they didn't realize that they meant candles OR they really are in the dark

I messed with trying to coat my own wicks for a while then just went with a wick that had a high temp coating and your right it clouds the gel a bit but not enough to be a real problem.

Yes, I just dont think its worth the trouble, I'm using htp in a large glass (very heavy weight) star shaped container now, its doing fine

So it was Early American Candle Supplies. http://www.earlyamericancandlesupplies.com/

There used to be some posters here that bought supplies from them. I never tried them. They are in Pennsylvania which is where several candlemaking suppliers are like Candlewic, Backwoods, Candles and Supplies, Peaks (east coast distribution center), and Fillmore Containers.

I've ordered wicking from them but nothing else, I would like to try Filmore Containers for the Christmas Wreath Fo , if I have the name of the oil right, its one thats supposed to close to a BB dupe?