OK I'm still having problems wicking the Sage and citrus candles (j223, 1.5 oz/lb, 8 oz jelly and 9oz hex) It seems every wick that i put in drowns. for the 8 oz I'm up to a 51Z and it drowns, and does not have a descent pool all the way out. for the 9 oz 60Z's same thing. On the 9oz it starts out looking to big a little smoke then after a pool developes it the flame weakens. As for the 8 oz I've tried a lx 18, and I barely get a pool. Any suggestions? Also, leading me to believe I'm not testing properly. How long should you give the candle to see if you get a descent melt pool. On the jelly jar and 90z I've be doing 2-2.5 hours, Should I go longer. Any suggestions or Ideas will be greatly appreciated Tim