I was just browsing and found the website at www.candlefactoryco.com I live in Kentucky and believe me it's hard to find anything local,no one here had even seen a gel pie,they are totally amazed.I did contact cricket Thanks! I think if I can get some gel at a reasonable price and reasonable shipping I could do really well with these pies.There was one local company that was in a paper I picked up that has advertisements for a large area that advertised gel wax so I called them and ask if it was penereco,she said no I'm not sure what you mean, so I didnt even bother to proceed with that one which would have been about 2 hours from where I live.Thanks for your replies!