sorry looks like i posted the same thing 3 times!! I have tried ECO and RRD with not so good results in the beginning with the CB advanced, maybe 2 years ago. I have been testing recently with all the changes in the cb, the CD, CDN and HTP not sure what CSN are? I was thinking the coco2 (yeah i realize it has a little soy but thinking it wouldn't add up too much)- but thought it would help with the burn and FO load and appearance of this last rotten box of CB! which I am trashing or just going to use for tarts. Anyway long story - sorry again - I have CD, CDN & HTP, and i guess i will give up for now on the coconut and just use C3 alone. Would you suggest I get CSN? I think i may still have RRD and ECO and which numbers to start with testing in the C3? I remember another member telling me I should test the C3 alone by itself!! I should definitely listen more! I just LOVE this forum!!!!! you guy's are all so knowledgeable and help me calm down my nerve cells so I can continue! :-)