Soy-N-Suds

Eco wicks worked the best for me in this wax. Great cold and hot throw, plus great burn qualities.

Be careful trying to help they usually get mad if you try to give advice. I have 21 years of candle making and learned by trial and error. I've thought sharing would spare others mistakes I've made but it didn't work that way. 🤷‍♀️

On 12/7/2021 at 2:44 PM, RichardLOZ said:

/Begin Rant

 

I was fliting around FB yesterday and managed to join about 5 or 6 Australian Candle making groups, and just reading some of the comments was quite concerning!

 

People who have never made a candle before, looking to start with Woodwicks, people chasing scents that are not available from their usual supplier for an order they have, wondering if that same scent is available from an alternate supplier, not considering that perhaps it may also be a different formulation and will need to be tested. People doing pillar candles in Vanilla and wondering why the colour is not white, then remake it only to find the same issue, then remake it again in a different scent to ensure it is white - no consultation with the customer, not testing the new scent, as typically vanilla does need wicking up, so if they used the same wick for their alternate scent......

On 10/11/2021 at 7:36 AM, Belinda said:

I must've got a bad bottle of their Monkey Farts because it wouldn't throw in wax or beads for me.

Oh, wow! This is one of my strongest throwers. I'm burning one now in my sun room. 16x16 room off my kitchen which is 16x26 and both rooms smell.

On 6/7/2021 at 11:47 AM, kandlekrazy said:

Very pretty! Bet it smells amazing.  I almost always had issues with peppermint unless I blended it.

What issues? This is a nice clean sharp peppermint FO.

I use peppermint EO in bath and body products. 

You are using FO in wax, correct?

Candle Jar: 16oz Pint Jar

Wax: Soy Blend

Cure: 4 Weeks

Wick: LX16

Flame: Perfect 10/10

Glass Temperature: 110*

CT: Very Good 10/10

HT: Excellent 10/10

Mushrooms: None

Wick Trimming: Only when lighting

MP: 1/8" = 3 hours

      <1/4" = 4 hours

Note: Quite a bit of hang up top 1/3 but catches up nicely without getting hot.

https://www.candlemaking.com/peppermint-swirl.html.html

Candle Jar: 8oz Flint Jar

Wax: Soy Blend

Cure: 4 Weeks

Wick: LX12

Flame: Perfect 10/10

Glass Temperature: 125*

CT: Very Good 10/10

HT: Excellent 10/10

Mushrooms: None

Wick Trimming: Only when lighting

MP: 1/8" = 3 hours

      <1/4" = 4 hours

Candle Jar: 8oz Flint Jar

Wax: Soy Blend

Cure: 4 Weeks

Wick: LX10

Flame: Perfect 10/10

Glass Temperature: 120*

CT: Very Good 9/10

HT: Excellent 10/10

Mushrooms: None

Wick Trimming: Only when lighting

MP: 1/8" = 3 hours

      <1/4" = 4 hours

https://www.candlemaking.com/monkey-farts.html.html

6 hours ago, Lizzy said:

I wouldn't be surprised. I have never tried it. Shipping from BC to me is insane. I just paid 25$ for shipping for 3 bottles of FO.

$25 for 3lb bottles from BC? Where do you live? 

I'm only 3 hours from them. When I need wax, I pick up. I'm 3 hours from Soy Organics, so I pick up there too. If I have to order oils or dye and don't need wax then I ship.

Unfortunately, BC discontinuing IGI wax forces me to ship that in. 

16 hours ago, Lizzy said:

There was/is a general consensus that EZ Soy is the same as GB/AAK 415 

I started my candlemaking journey with it and it's very finicky with fragrances. Glad Soy came a long way since. LOL

I'm not familiar with that Soy. I've seen people talk about it, but I haven't ordered it. Well, maybe I have as EZ Soy.

I really like the EZ Parasoy. I wonder if that is sold under a different name?

I'm not crazy about the EZ Soy though. It's good for clamshells, but I had FEW oils that worked for candles. The Midwest Soy worked well with almost every FO I tried, but I had to leave them white.

The EZ ParaSoy colors nicely and every FO I've tried has been great! I've only just started though.

22 hours ago, ErronB said:

Do you know who's blend the parasoy is? is it the CJ one Flaming Candle and others use?

I think it's their own. I believe the EZ Soy is their own too. I haven't seen anyone say it's a known wax under a different name.

I was sold on Midwest Soy, but with the price hikes I tried the EZ Parasoy and really like it.

6 hours ago, Lizzy said:

I was just over on their website to reorder some FO's and noticed that there's a lot of décor stuff and it looks like they are doing away with paraffin waxes? 
 

They quit igi waxes last year so they have what they have until it's gone. They are keeping palm wax and their EZ Soy and EZ Parasoy. I bought igi from them and now have to ship it. Bitter Creek is pick up for me, so needless to say my prices took a steep hike.

On 4/16/2021 at 6:56 PM, CLVC said:

Hi everyone,

 

Seeing that colored libbey jars are a unicorn right now, I'm wondering if anyone has successfully colored a cleared libbey jar. Is it something worth doing? what all will I need?

 

 

This is a pint jar sprayed with stained glass paint. My all Soy candles don't get dyed the Soy is left natural, so I stain glass the jar and decorate with pretty things.

On 5/8/2021 at 8:33 AM, Lorraines said:

Is it okay to put the safety warning labels for pillar candles on the packaging?  If it has to be on the candle itself, does anyone know how to make them stay attached?

 

Thanks for your help.

Please don't take this as legal advise, but if it's attached to the candle it seems it would be dangerous when the candle burns to the end. Fire + wax soaked paper.

I've seen products, not necessarily candles, have instructions and/or warnings not attached to the product and it says. "Keep these instructions handy for reference until your candle (whatever the product may be) is gone."

13 hours ago, Karen Ov said:

Thank you . I will check it out..💐

https://cart.candlesupply.com/Pink-Grapefruit-Dye-Flakes-pr-19260.html

On 4/14/2021 at 8:10 AM, Karen Ov said:

Hi..Im using tart wax 650 from Flaming candle and dye chips/blocks and i have liquid dye from flaming/ RE. And going for a pink grapefruit. Using grapefruit and blackberry from new york scent ...smells so good, mire grapefruit than blackberry but still good.  

I make pink grapefruit scent and buy a pink grapefruit dye from Bitter Creek.

On 4/7/2021 at 12:53 AM, Mum to 5 said:

Hi does anyone have the bath and shower gel recipe? Thank you Carly

Just pointing out this post is 13 years old. Not sure if you'll get a response.

On 3/22/2021 at 8:48 PM, SageSlowdive said:

Has anyone had any luck with Alibaba?

I can't answer your question, but you will find helpful information by typing 'Alibaba' in the search bar.

27 minutes ago, TallTayl said:

Without additives too many times we saw graining and fragrance oil bleeding out of suspension. Observations spanned over several years of use as a main wax and as an additive wax. If ambient conditions change - as they always do when seasons change - all new production problems arise and require expensive rework. 

 

midwest soy is not a manufacturing friendly wax. It severely limits production.  If making only a few candles a day, sure we could wait for the pot to reduce in temp to pour at the perfect temp. 

Hmmm, I see. I haven't noticed these problems. I've gone through two summers and two winters. Next month, April, will start my third summer season. I use 7% FO and the crisco. I don't test wicks until a 3-4 month cure, sometimes they sit 5-6 months. 

You are much bigger than I care to be and I understand production speed being a problem for sure.

I suppose it's like every other market out there. It's why we have choices; so we can pick our battles lol

Since 2001 there have been so many changes and whenever I've settled on something, it changes or gets discontinued. 

On 3/9/2021 at 9:49 PM, TallTayl said:

midwest soy is the most finicky soy I have ever worked with. It takes MONTHS to reach its final cure state. I adore the adhesion but hate how perfect everything needs to be while making them.
 

I had the best luck with Midwest soy using 3-5% white beeswax. Beeswax gives the additional benefit of aiding in the holding in the fragrance il in suspension.  Without beeswax I had terrible problems with the fragrance “drifting” pooling and seeping. It behaved best heating to 180, adding fo, and cooling while stirring to 105 before pouring.  Pouring warmer leads to ugly tops and graining that cause seeping fragrance.
 

Paraffin did not really improve it, funny enough. Nor did palm, vybar/polyboost.
 

White petrolatum (plain unscented vaseline) at up to 2% had some promise if allowed to cure long enough. 
 

it is rumored to be the equivalent of GB 402, which there are a few threads here on the forum about. 

I really like Midwest Soy now that I've gotten used to it. No sink holes, excellent HT and CT, and great burning candles. Most FO works, and the ones that don't I use in other applications. If I'm dead set on a wicked candle I use Parasoy. I agree most of the candles need to cure a long time, but it's worth the wait for me. 

What is your purpose for additives? I used it without any until just recently and now I add 1 tsp Crisco/lb. for a very smooth top.

I don't mind waiting for the cure, so the only downside I find is waiting for the wax to cool so I can pour it. I pour @ 100*. 

On 2/23/2021 at 11:56 AM, Belinda said:

@Soy-N-Suds, those look so nice! What wax do you use for your melts? I'm always looking for a good cinnamon too so I may have to try theirs.

I make a proprietary blend with mostly paraffin and a little soy. I ended up selling out of my oil selling the embeds, so the two test candles I made were my only candles. I use Midwest soy and htp or lx wicks, depending on the fragrance oil. Love everything about this as far as Scent throw and burn quality. I'll be getting more of this oil for candle jars when I have a big enough order tomsend in.

On 1/28/2021 at 12:26 AM, Daisymay66 said:

I’d love to hear your thoughts after testing! Cinnamon scents always seem to give me a problem with wicking.

I'll test burn a couple candles next week, but in the mean time I made some melts.

36 minutes ago, KrisS said:

I love their Wick Your Wax fragrances. 

I just ordered chip colors from them after reading their news letter. I see in the letter the WYW scents are $3 off/lb

get a coupon code from the newsletter through January 31.

On 1/20/2021 at 6:05 AM, Daisymay66 said:

Would you mind sharing some of your favorites?

Cinnamon Red Hot - NEW for me and I just bought an 8oz bottle to test. It's pretty amazing!