I too used to be a demonstrator for them and then a retailer when I finally opened my shop. They are great candles, with excellent scent throw both hot and cold, but when they did their revamping, increased pricing and got the new ceo I knew I was done. I am down to my last 3 cases of them and will be glad to be done with them. I found other companies that are small business that have just as great a candle without the exhorbant pricing!! One right here on these boards <wavin to TS!!>