lovelyscents

6 hours ago, moonshine said:

You mentioned GB waxes so I am assuming you use soy.....

NG I only use 3 oils from them- most all have been misses for me in 415 But it is a very popular supplier and they may work for you 

I use many suppliers, too many actually but I like the following best for soy

CS

WSP

SC

ELEMENTS 

AH/RE

FC

I also use a few from:

JS

BCN

FB

PFO

DAYSTAR

PEAK

Shipping is ridiculous lately but it's not always cheaper the closer you are - we have a supplier about 3 hours away from me but shipping is way more for wax than ordering from CS and I don't have much time to take a 7-8 road trip to go get it myself, so you can look at few more suppliers and add stuff to your cart and see which one is more practical for you and go from there

WSP pricing is based off shipping included so it does seem high but I found adding 1oil from say CS to my cart with the shipping there isn't much difference going off just 1 bottle ordered 

I'm trying out paraffin and soy right now to make my own parasoy blend, so I need at least one supplier with both waxes and good shipping.  So are FOs more touchy with soy or can you fail at throw with paraffin as well?  I am so surprised elements would throw well, I've only ordered from them years ago but for bath and body items.  No idea they would throw in wax, good to know!  I definitely have realized that some have better shipping and it is sometimes farther away.  I agree with you about traveling so far.  WSP I am still on the fence, but may try a couple oils since I need molds anyways.  I am curious about their birthday cake and PPW!!

6 hours ago, Belinda said:

You are defiantly into an addicting business/hobby LOL! I keep saying I'm not going to buy anymore FO's since I have tons and tons that I've never used but every time something new  comes along I feel like I just HAVE to have a sample!

I don't remember exactly which of Indigo's I put in wax but I think I did a couple of them. I'm at Disney World right now and as soon as I get home I'll check and see which ones it was. I think they have some unique oils but they also have some that NG and it appears FB carry too. What I've ordered smelled good OOB though.

WSP has some great oils and I have quite a few of their 2 ounce bottles. I just got some more in when they were having their 35% off sale a week or so ago but haven't put them in wax yet. There are some of theirs that I would love to use but I can't see spending $30 plus on a pound of fragrance that I can get from another supplier half of that cost. Not all of their oils are priced that high though and I don't have a problem using them and even the expensive ones if they are the only ones that carry that oil and I have a need for it. Right now my biggest sellers are anything with leather alone or blended and the manly scents. I honestly don't get that but I live in Texas and Texans LOVE anything that reminds them of a cowboy! LOL!

If there's a particular oil you would like to try from a supplier, let me know. I have tons of one ounce samples that I probably will never use and I would be happy to send them to you if I have what you need. 

I am so like you Belinda when it comes to fragrance oils, I'm obsessed with scents!!  Good to hear about Indigo, I guess there were a couple I wanted from Indigo that NG doesn't carry such as waffle cone, jelly doughnut and some dupes.  I was particularly really curious on their PPW.  I again agree with WSP prices.  I don't mind spending a bit more on an awesome oil, but when another supplier can be just as good or very close, it doesn't make sense to spend that much more.  I'm in OH and I actually think I would like leather as well maybe mixed in with some good men Cologne dupe ahhh.  I would so love to try some out if you don't mind!!!  Oh my merry Christmas to me hehe.  Are they older oils or fairly fresh?  I'm still in the testing phases of wax too so it's best to have fresh so I know if it doesn't throw, it's my method and not the oil especially if it's a tried and true FO from a good supplier.  Thank you so much! 

Have fun at Disney

I have definitely learned a lot about wax, FO and even myself since this post.  I am going to do molds for sure.  I don't know what I was thinking asking about semi-melting, I think I meant when whipping wax.  I know it has to be melted to a certain temperature prior to adding fragrance and so on.  Thank you for responding though

11 minutes ago, Belinda said:

To my nose, Indigo's fragrances are a whole lot like NG's but that's just my opinion. I do like them though but I order from NG quite often, especially their Mrs. Claus Cookies. If I had to pick between WSP, FB or Maple Street, I would go with FB. I've only used Maple Street for their clams and have ordered some samples but haven't put them in wax. FB has a lot of great oils and they have a bigger selection. I love some of WSP's oils but they're kind of high. That's just my opinion, hope that helps!

Thank you so much, I love all opinions!  Have you tested Indigo in wax or just OOB and so you are saying you would still choose NG over Indigo?  I have seen a lot of luck with FB and I like their selection and that they have reviews.  A lot of people are starting to rave about Maple Street lately, but honestly, I have been researching for over a year and testing for months and barely heard of them until I came across the Facebook poll.  I see the owner advertises alot and comments on every post that is asking for FO or candle supplies.  I understand he may be doing that because all companies need business, but it seems too good to be true in my eyes I guess.  I did have very few oils from WSP due to only offering 2 oz at a time and that to me can get costly quickly when Im still in testing phases.  However, the ones I had sitting here I forgot about last year still seemed strong OOB and I've heard they are of good quality.  I agree with you about being kind of high, even with shipping included, they are still sometimes higher than another supplier that you pay shipping separately.  This definitely has been a long journey already and will continue to be that way Im sure forever since there is always new suppliers and new FOs from suppliers all the time.  argh! lol

I've definitely researched suppliers closer to me due to shipping costs.  As far as wax goes...Bulk unfortunately doesn't carry GB wax, NG and TCS don't carry the wax I need and The candlemakers store I think equals out to the same overall total with shipping included as Flaming and I like Scents from Flaming so it makes sense to use them.  I'm not familiar with Scents at Candlemakers store.  Thank you so much for trying to help!

3 minutes ago, Moonstar said:

Maybe for B& B and everyone's 

perception of smell is different. 

The ones I've tried from them are either ok or kinda cheap smelling

but again, everyone is different. 

I also like mad oils & RE 

what state are you in ?

Actually this was a poll in a candle making only group.  I am in Ohio.

3 minutes ago, Moonstar said:

I really like Fillmore container for holiday /Christmas oils. Not sure what state your in but I'm only a few states away from them. I rarely get supplies from suppliers

on the opposite coast - way too expensive for shipping. NG is very hit n miss for me so I don't use them very often. 

Honestly, I've had a bit more misses too, so I question why I keep them as a top.  However, so many others rave and swear about them, so I started thinking something I am doing is wrong.  After researching several sources including here, I'm doing things correctly, so I'm not sure.  Even a poll that was created on a Facebook group has NG as the number 1 FO supplier.  

5 minutes ago, Moonstar said:

Personally, Id go with WSP 

why thank you for responding and the recommendation

I know they are all hit or misses (unfortunately) and personal testing is best.  Even though I have been testing for months, I still have not had the funds to try every scent at every reputable place.  For example: birthday cake, every supplier carries it and it would be nice to buy this oil and test from each supplier, but that is very costly for me.  I would LIKE to narrow my suppliers down to about 6 (hard to do I know!).  I so far use NG, CS, Peak, ICS and Flaming.  Having a hard time with the 6th one.  I am torn between trying Indigo, WSP, FB or Maple Street as my 6th supplier.  If any of you can recommend one of those being on top with more hits vs misses, it would be so gratefully helpful!  Or if you even see one on my list that I already use that you would swap out, that is very helpful as well.  Love this forum and all of you!  Happy holidays

I know this is old, but has anyone else ordered and tested with them yet?  Having a hard time narrowing my suppliers and I just love the priced and all the fun, unique scents they have.  I currently have 5 suppliers and want to stick with 6 total.  I am torn between trying Indigo, WSP, FB or Maple Street as my 6th supplier.  Anyone?

On 10/17/2016 at 9:12 PM, lovelyscents said:

 

Has anyone found a good PPW yet?

Hey y'all,

Have been researching here for weeks and I give much appreciation to all of you for helping!!  You all are very considerate and helpful.  I have yet to come across this question even after searching, so I figured I would ask for your opinions.  I am looking to make my wax items unique to me, trying to find my niche as they call it.  I am not sure if I want to do clams or molds yet, but want to put my twist on things and I will be blending my own custom FO's.  My first idea is "grubby / primitive / rustic" looking melts.  If you semi-melt wax, I understand it can harden to look nice and rustic like I want.  However, will this be a problem with scent throw and possibly color?  I understand you have to melt the wax to a certain temp and add your FO for it to bind for optimal results.  I would just buy primitive molds, but they only hold about 4-6 melts at a time.  I feel this would get very time consuming if I was to ever get a good amount of orders.  Any tips for this?

I have also thought about making wax sprinkles / beads / drops.  My issue with this is curing time as the FO and color have to cure much longer than just melt and pouring your wax.  Not to mention, I am considering my own custom parasoy blend, so it would not work in this case since soy is the only wax to offer in a premade sprinkles / drops form.  I also was not sure if I could ever make candles out of the sprinkles?  Such as having a wick in the center of the sprinkles say in a glass jar or tin?  I understand that it would melt the sprinkles once the flame hit it, but is it more of a waste?  Definitely would need a lid if going that route.  

As far as FO's go, I understand every supplier has weak and strong throwers and some have better suited in soy than others as well.  I have done a salt test (recommended by this forum) with a couple to test strength.  Is this a legitimate way to truly test them?  I ask because I know salt and wax are two different things when it comes to FO throw correct?  If salt worked the best for scent throw, wouldn't everyone skip the trouble of wax and use salt?  What are your opinions on Indigo Fragrance or Fragrance Buddy?  Funnel cake from Indigo even with just the salt test lasted up to 16 hours and reached about 1000 sqft of my home.  Therefore, I would like to try more from them.  I tried Pumpkin Pecan Waffles from JS, but seemed to have gotten different results each time I did a salt test.  That is why I was asking if the salt test is true for judging.  If so, it makes me wonder if I should order anymore from JS or not.  I know this is where the testing different oils from each supplier since they all act differently comes in.  Do we have a better chance of good throw when blending several FO's like I am planning?  I figured even if a FO isnt that strong of a thrower, maybe the others mixed in will be and make a nice throw overall.  Ahh what we do for our passion.  I have a love hate relationship already! haha

Thank you all for taking time to read and respond