YAMS

Hi guys, I am venturing to make tarts or melts very soon.   I bought IGI 4625 Pillar Blend from CS and I was wondering what is the norm FO% that I should use with this wax? Thanks guys   

On 11/13/2016 at 3:24 AM, Pamaroma said:

What are your opinions on Narures Gardens? I've tried two so far from there. Mulberry was wonderful hot throw. Old Fastion Banana Pudding no throw at all.

I haven't tried then yet. Sorry 

On 11/14/2016 at 0:11 PM, number2of7 said:

There is no difference between the two.  There are just multiple names people use to describe their wax.....tarts, wax melts, scent shots, etc.

That's what I thought but want sure. Thanks

55 minutes ago, Jul said:

wish I had seen this sooner. Blood Orange. very strong and great scent, imo. I ordered cranberry marmalade and their apple harvest. I can get back with you on that.

thanks for sharing your three. I'll try them next time.

jmh

Thanks Jul.  I'll be trying those as well.  

Just now, YAMS said:

Scented what are lustre crystals?  Where do you buy that and how do you use it?  First time I hear of it?  Thanks a bunch for this information

Also you do think it is safe to use in very small amounts?  I wanted to make a Winter Wonderland FO candle and want it white but opaque.  I really would like to continue to use the white but only if its safe.  Thanks 

On 11/9/2016 at 11:06 PM, Scented said:

I wouldn't toss the white, because some day you might get into dipping, but what I'd go in search of perhaps is a bit of lustre crystals which might help some to give regular wax a more opaque look. Just something to perhaps experiment with, even though you're doing container candles. Stearic will do the same thing as far as a more opaque look. 

Scented what are lustre crystals?  Where do you buy that and how do you use it?  First time I hear of it?  Thanks a bunch for this information

Okay so I just read Jcandleattic's recommended post.  Great information.  I have a very dumb question even after reading the post!!!   What is the difference between a light bulb type warmer and a hot plate?  Is a hot plate one that just uses heat via electricity without any form of light?  Also, which do you all prefer?  Thanks guys and bare with my newbie ignorance.    I am getting great at candles but this whole tart thing is too foreign to me still.   

On 11/4/2016 at 9:33 AM, Jcandleattic said:

Yams, have you read this thread? It will help with determining what type of melter you want... 

 

 

No I haven't J.   I am going to do that right now as I watch the presidential race.  Lol  Thank you so much

On 11/4/2016 at 0:45 AM, lilliput said:

The plug inthe wall warmers use a 15 watt bulb. I have no idea why you got one with the smaller wattage. It will not work.

The wattage means heat. It takes 15 watts to heat the warmer up enough to melt your wax. Most waxes will melt at this point and be hot enough to throw the scent. Anything under 7 is for night lights. Warmer bulbs start at 15 and 60 is the biggest wattage I have ever seen. 

I have not seen the ones at target, so I don't know about the wattage on the larger warmers. Your wax has a higher melt point than the 25 watts puts out. Try a 30 watt. You don't need a different warmer, just the right wattage for your wax. Make sure the bulb does not touch the tray. Keep an eye on it. The size and shape of the bulb does not matter, it is all about wattage.

Liliput, so basically I don't have to get rid of the warmer just change the bulb?  I thought most of them have a maximum wattage capacity?  Also, important to mention I am using the left over 4627 wax from my candles.  I have yet to make tarts using the appropriate wax.   Do you think this may also be influencing the HT?  

1 hour ago, Trappeur said:

Well, the blue is really pretty though!

 

Trappeur

It really does.  The white gives it this chalky tone that I love but not worth the risk.   

2 hours ago, Jcandleattic said:

How much did you use? White dyes are almost always made of pigment, and pigments can clog your wick, even used in small amounts. That's probably what's going on. 

Yes, the block looks very pigmented.  I should have thought of that......   I guess I won't be using it again.  Ugh.  

So I ordered some color blocks from Flaming Candle and decided to add a little of the white to a blue to give it a chalky tone which turned out to my liking.  I let the candle set for 2 weeks and EPIC FAIL.   I am almost convinced it is the dye.  I did nothing different with this candle except a new scent: Winter Wonderland from Flaming.   Look at the pictures and tell me what you think.   The candle barely burns the wick is almost buried now and what I see on the melt pool is almost a white powder like particles.   Again, I did nothing different.   I stirred the dyes for as long as I always do.   What do you guys think?  The worse part is that I just made like 10 other candles last night (different scent) but I also added a little bit of the white.   Also, do you think I can re-melt and do something to save these candles at this point?  Thanks guys 

I am getting ready to start making melts using 4625.  Do you follow the same guideline for this wax as far as the % of FO you that should be used as you do for your soy or paraffin blends?  I normally use 4726 for my candles.  Thanks guys.  

2 minutes ago, Moonstar said:

I use a Scentsy one that my daughter bought me for Christmas last year  I just love it - it has I believe a 25 watt bulb + I have it on ALL of the time and it 

just a few days ago blew out - the light bulb not the warmer itself. Ive never used your wax for melts. I think Ive decided on a mix of 6006 + Eco soya pillar

blend. Ive also used 464 with a bit of palm and that seemed ok too.But didn't test as many FO's in the last one. When making melts I do use more than 6%

unless of course its a Super strong FO. I know a lot of people have mentioned mixing 2 paraffin waxes on here - don't quote me maybe 4630 + 4625 ???

I'll look later and let you know if wrong on the two waxes BTW : I bet you can easily find someone in your area that sells Scentsy if not I believe you can

go online to order. 

Moonstar that's the thought i was going with.  My sister in law uses Scentsys all the time and she loves them.    I am only using my candle wax now because it was leftovers and didn't want to discard but I purchased 4625 already and plan to make some today.  I will be ordering the Scentsy ones online soon.  Thanks for your advise.   

I am a bit frustrated.   I decided to use my left over wax from candles (4627) and use as melts.  I bought a few wax warmers..  I bought the electric ones with a light bulb in them.  I also bought the ones with a light bulb that go as plug ins on wall outlets.  I bought them from Target .   I don't get almost no HT.  I love the fact that I don't have to use a tealight but they basically just look cute.   I believe the wall plugs use a 5 w bulb and the large counter top ones use a 25 w bulb.   The only warmer that works is an old one that I had bought from Bath and Body Works years ago.  Is a ceramic one that uses tealight, great HT.  BTW I am using one of my best performers, CS Mac Apple.   Can you tell me what warmers work for you?  Specially if you have found the electric ones that do work well?   I am not so worried about the price I just need them to work.  Thanks guys

On my other comment:  I would love to find out more about ROOM SPRAYS & ALSO ABOUT WAX TART WARMERS (BEST PERFORMING BRANDS TO BUY)

THIS IS GREAT BY THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!   LOVE THIS FORUM

1 hour ago, Belinda said:

I never could get 4625 to release from a clamshell when I used it by itself. When I mix it with a container wax like 4630 or 6006 at a 50/50 ratio it does great in clamshells. I have used it alone in silicone molds though and loved it. 

I drop mine on the bathroom floor while it's still wrapped up to break it up LOL!

Belinda

Would you say that for clamshells I should use 50/50 of 4627 (the wax I use) and the 4625 or can I use less of the 4627?? I also read that 4526 works fine alone for molds?  Also (very funny btw) how do you break it up?  I am picturing you on your knees going at it with a hammer.  Lol.   I just received 4625 but I haven't even opened the box from CS yet.  But I am super excited to start making tarts!!!   Thanks for all your helpful comments

On 10/20/2016 at 4:38 PM, bfroberts said:

I've used it.  I didn't find it very strong in 6006, but admittedly all I tested was an 8 oz mason jar.  It does benefit from a long cure, and I only cured that one a few days.  It is good and strong in palm, and it is strong in my paraffin melts. I bought an 8oz to test with, and that is the extent of my testing so far. 

this is good information BFroberts.   May i ask what percentage FO you used?

I failed with Frasier Fir and Blue Spruce which MAKES NO SENSE to me because out of the bottle I expected them to be super hot throwers. Maybe I need to try them again because the smell is fabulous.  

Just an update on this.... I found Mojito at CS and Nature's Garden.   Cuban Tobacco at Rustic Essentials.   Bamboo Sugar Cane (the closest to sugarcane) by Rustic Essentials and Cognac & Cubans by Nature's Garden.   I have to put these to try.  Not sure how they will blend together though....   Thanks for all the wonderful ideas.  

On 10/25/2016 at 7:31 PM, earthfriendly said:

Guarapo (sugar cane juice) I love me some guarapo!  Use to drink it all the time when I lived in Florida.

Oh yes, I love GUARAPO.  I haven't had one in years!!!    

On 10/25/2016 at 7:06 PM, TallTayl said:

Cuban COFFEE!

cigars

mojito!

 

 

Love this idea TallTayl!!!  Being Cuban myself I should have thought about that.   Lol   

10 hours ago, Moonstar said:

4625 is a pillar/votive  wax so you could use it in both. From my recollection its a very hard wax, as in I needed a chisel to break pieces up. What I did was 

break it up all at once in smallish ( I know its not a word lol !)  pieces + then stored that in a sealed tub. BTW I love making melts - so much

easier than candles .

Perfect that's all the information I needed to try 4625.  I also wanted to know if I could use it in silicone molds,candy molds and tart clamshells.  Thanks everyone for your help.  You are an amazing bunch.  

On October 23, 2016 at 0:12 PM, KrisS said:

It's been one of those mornings.    I've tried for 15 minutes to edit the original post to clarify that I'm working with other waxes that seem to be performing significantly better, and I don't have any reasons to continue putting FO and time into a product I've grown to dislike this much.   

 

  So...I'm stuck with a post that looks like a rage-quit/tantrum when it wasn't...but you're still welcome to that 50 lb box if you want it.

???????? good laugh out of that one.  

8 hours ago, KrisS said:

Please share your results.

 

That said, there's nothing preventing you from creating a Cuban-inspired fragrance line with things you've either mixed or renamed.   

krisS not a bad idea.  I am so new to this that I wouldn't know what scents to begin with.  If you have any ideas send them my way.   Thanks