Sponiebr

2 hours ago, Moonstar said:

I was waiting for this post ! Kelly, these are beautiful ! What new RE FO ended up being your favorite ? Im going to have to try to find a recipe with tallow

Ive read it makes really nice soap. I have a question .... Ive never made a 100% coconut soap but read if you super fat @ 20% it's not drying. I wanted 

to use coffee infused coconut oil just as a body soap bar. My daughter owns a spray tanning place + asked if I could make some for her to sell. Have 

any of you had any experience with all coconut soap made this way. 

 

 

My last 2 batches of oatmeal/ goats milk/ and honey soap were 100% coconut oil at 20%SF and to be perfectly honest they are still pretty drying. Not horribly so because of the honey, but yeah they still clean pretty aggressively.  Edited to add: Beef tallow makes a very nice soap with a creamy lather BTW. 

2 hours ago, KrazeKelly said:

 

Goldie, that is my absolute favorite part!! It's always a surprise. Love it!! 

Awesome soaps Kelly! 

So, I saw this title and, yep my mind went straight to the Reddi Whip. But then I paused and then THIS happened in my brain: "Wait... Oh, PLEASE NO!!!! Are they talking about body hair highlights!?" 

(I know... It's like staring at the sun...) o.O

Oh! Those are NICE! 

On 8/19/2016 at 1:45 AM, KrazeKelly said:

HOWDY! Kelly!!! 

What's your name? Kelly

*****Yes, third time ?  A daughter 24 and son 21. 

 

On 8/19/2016 at 5:55 PM, Jcandleattic said:

Third times a charm!! (I'm on #3 as well!) 

Is it... (sniff)

Possible (eyes tearing up)

that there is (chin and lower lip quivering) 

Hoo, ho  o.... Hope for...for... 'ME' !?????

4 minutes ago, KrazeKelly said:

 

Hahaha! Good luck with the pine tar peppermint salt bars!! Thats adventurous!! I have only made Pine Tar bars once and it moves pretty quick when you add the pine tar. So adding salt could be tricky. 

 

I do 20% super fat in my salt bars also and use 5% castor oil.  What I've read is that coconut oil can clog the pores. But there are two types of coconut oil. One is 4 on the comedogenic scale and the other is 0. I dont know how to know which is which. The one that is high is from the meat or kernels, and the other one is from the drupe. Whatever that is!! ? I do have sunflower and rice bran oil to use and also mango and shea butter. Maybe avocado too. 

 

Kelly

Yeah PT soap with the peppermint is a regular PITA that I make, I thought maybe the salt might be interesting. ( I so HATE how FAST that stuff moves in CP, but I REALLY don't like the thought of HP'ing it. Meh pine tar soap is what it is.) 

I know that if I use coconut oil in, let's say, a beard oil it creates problems and basically turns me into "yuck" incarnate. I've only had the zitsapalooza happen when I use it exclusively as an moisturizing oil to just basically smear on my face but it's never been a problem for me in soap --even with a 20% lye discount. Have you had problems with this issue using CO in your soap? I can't see using a clay in a soap would have any absorptive effect at all because the clay is already soaked with fat or at least with soap. Now it might be, I dunno, "exfoliating"? Even if the clay was prehydrated with a portion of the recipe's water I can't see how that would work.   

As I understand it the whole super fat issue is that soap is soap and it clean's at 100% soaper power all the time. This can't be changed at all, and there's no special mixing or add this fat or that thing at trace or before trace that can change the fact that soap kills fats. So to make a soap more mild we super fat it, meaning that we give it some incorporated free fats to work on so it doesn't use 100% of it's soaper power on our skin fats. Basically we decrease the soap's ability to cleanse us, by making the soap bar cleanse itself. (If that makes any sense?) So, what I've been told is that soap can not be moisturizing or conditioning, and they have been vehemently adamant about this concept. This bugs the HELL outta me because I can FEEL the oil on the shower floor as I wash with a really high superfatted soap. I had a 100% pure OO Castile that I made with a 20% SF which greased up the shower floor REAL nice , (NO LATHER at all), but interestingly it DIDN'T grease me up. Though admittedly I'm SO confused, what I'm being told seems to actually occur in practice. 

Hopefully someone with more experience with this will chime in on this but I think that these comedonal ratings apply only to cosmetics etc.. and not to soap. 

I've been thinking a LOT about this whole comedogenic issue lately. I haven't seen a list yet here on this forum with the comedogeic ratings of various fats, have you? If not that might be a useful thing I could or someone could put together especially for the bath, beauty, and beyond types. 

Wow... This place is INTERESTING! 

Cheers! 

Sponie

14 minutes ago, KrazeKelly said:

I have made salt bars several times but I want to make a facial bar with salt that doesn't contain coconut oil. So there's my dilemma! I normally do 80% coconut oil and salt in my salt bars so how do I get some lather without coconut oil?? Do I add less salt?? I am trying to keep my oils and butters low on the comedogenic scale and that's the reason I don't want any coconut oil. 

 

Also, I have some Dead Sea clay and kelp powder I want to use in this soap. Do you think those plus the salt will be overkill or too drying?? 

 

Kelly

CO oil soap comedogenic? I've heard of CO soaps being severely drying but I've never heard of it causing zits. My CO soaps are superfatted to 20% and they are still way to drying for my taste.  But to answer your question, I'd think some castor, would give you some more lather. I'm finding that if it gives a great lather, it's drying as all get out.  

I'm not real familiar with salt bars, but I'm trying to get familiar with them REAL quick because I want to make some pine tar peppermint salt bars... (BUHAHAHAHAHAAH!!! It's ALIVE!!!) So, as I understand salt bars, again this is purely theory for me, salt kills lather. What would you replace your CO with, sunflower? Rice bran oil!? (That might work well.) I don't know, so I defer to those with more wisdom in affairs of the suds.

YM*W*V! 

Slainte, 

Sponie

On 4/2/2016 at 9:51 AM, puma52 said:

This soap has got me thinking....question for ya Chefmom.....do you think a person could add a scent to this soap or would the tar smell overwhelm any other scent you think? I COULD so see a soap called Tar and Dirt on my shelf with activated charcoal added in there somewhere....what do you think? Did I just ruin my soap?  

I use peppermint EO in mine, and I love it. The only thing is, if you have company you need to make sure they don't go off and try the AH-MAAAZE-ING looking chocolate mint fudge... 

My recipes for pine tar soap have been single fat recipes, (the soap is only for me), 20% pine tar 80% whatever fat I've settled on, 10% superfat with (I'm doing the disclaimer now: I DO NOT RECOMMEND this much unless you know what you're getting into) 1 oz PPO Peppermint EO. (yes, you read that right and that's why I did the disclaimer) I've not used SL in my batches and while they are a little soft, they're not too soft  for my tastes. I've made it with lard, but I can't stand the smell of lard in my soap, it's a personal problem I have. I've also made it with beef tallow from Soaper's Choice. The beef tallow batch is actually a pretty darn good soap and has more of a true earthy smell to it if you leave out the peppermint. The tallow soap would probably lather better with a little CO and castor. My favorite batches to date though have been made with Crisco. Crisco made the softest of the different fats, but I, and anyone who tried both my tallow and Crisco soaps, liked the Crisco the best.

I really want to try your recipe Chefmom. (I'm still totally adding in my ounce PPO of peppermint, 'cause the tingle must LIVE ON!!!) I definitely don't have any SL and I don't have any AO. I don't know where I'd even get some Avocado oil locally. I wonder, if salting the batch might harden it up? I've never made salt bars before so I don't know if the salt would cause this to move even more quickly than it already does. 

Chefmom, how fast did your recipe move on you? My batches were moving at about 45-55 seconds from combined extremely light trace to "OMG, I just barely got it into the mold with no gloppy top. (Soap hard on the side of the bowl.) I would think the OO would slow your recipe down significantly. (comparatively speaking) 

What a fun thread and a really nice toot! 

Slainte,

Sponie

WOW. Were those both CP? On the hyacinth one, were you using an EO blend or was it an FO and by any chance was there any lavender in there? What happened? Did it just break on you at the last second? So many questions... FWIW: You did a FANTASTIC save on them both! 

Frigg'n gremlins...  

39 minutes ago, TallTayl said:

Glad you found us Sponie

I'm glad I had someone kind enough to point me here.

1 hour ago, Jcandleattic said:

Welcome Sponie. Looks like I have a fellow Irish member!! YAY

There is an awesome tutorial on Pine Tar soaps in the SOTM area, and she seems to keep hers fluid and not have it seize, if that helps at all. 

I look forward to seeing your posts. 

Cool! I'll check it out.

Yeah I'm Irish/Scottish/Dutch/Mutt... I resigned myself long ago to just go with 3/4 Celt and Dutch (and I mention mostly Irish). LOL! I also play bodhrán, whistles(all) and I make and play my own version of the traverse low D flute. (I designed a few nifty improvements. )  

Howdy all y'all.

I'm brand new to this forum and hopefully I'm in the right place. I make CP soap, just functional stuff for me, and well those around me tend to guilt me out of some of my stock as well. (Who am I kidding?) I totally let them "guilt me" into pilfering my stock, 'cause I like making soap, and I like that they like my soap. Right now I'm fixing to get myself psyched up to make a batch of pine tar and peppermint soap for myself. I probably should double that batch this time, because that's the ONE soap that I don't have a lot of fun making, (can you say soap on a SB?).  

Past: I grew up on a farm in the middle of nowhere it was an abandoned orange grove that froze to the ground.  We made soap from lard, and free/almost free mixed fat scraps from the butchers that I would wet render in the Florida summer heat out by the chicken coops... I'll say this: I don't use lard for soap anymore. The soap I made when I was growing up, it wasn't "nice" soap, it was just very functional soap that was used for cleaning and laundry and was most likely lye heavy. The stuff I make now is MUCH nicer soap. I haven't really every played with mica or oxides, but I'm hoping that is going to change soon.

We also made candles growing up, but that was really more my sister's thing. I've done that as well. Just hand dipped candles (paraffin and stearic acid), maybe colored with a few left over crayons from those silly 3 packs of crayons that were given out at Halloween. I also did an ice cube hot cast candle once. The candle turned out fine, but it's a stupid and long story, and I didn't make any more.   

Oooh, Bagpipes... I play those, kinda and a few other musical instruments, (I play at them anyway). I made my best friend an uilleann practice set for his birthday (those are those bellows blown beautiful sounding Irish bag pipes). I'm a craftsman so I also make other stuff, just all kinds of stuff. 

I'm 41 divorced, currently married, and unfortunately, about to be divorced again very soon, much to my chagrin. I do have a child from my first marriage. I have to work for a living and I have to do that work at night. 

You'll probably pick up on this pretty soon, but in case I have fooled you thus far, I should probably let you know I can be, ever so sightly, (not that it's always a bad thing), long winded...

I am NOT an expert on soap or basically anything on this forum and that is why I'm here, to learn.    

So just like in the beginning of Moby Dick, "Call me Ishmael", only it's, it's spelled "Sponie", (not Moby Dick... Ishmael...) 

Slainte,

Sponie

I was just poking about here through the subs trying to find a company name that matched someone's acronym and found this: (drum roll)  Suppliers by State Listing (ta-da!)

I was also poking about on Save on Scents (SOS) and realized that they don't have a lot of single EO's, not many at all... They have 19 items listed on their EO's page: 2 are sampler packs, 11 are single EO's, and 6 are blends. The one EO I was after -peppermint, was $32.76 for 16 ounces.  (yeah... I know! Right!?) That's the best price I've seen so far, but not really my point. My point is that SOS doesn't seem to have much in the way of EO's single or blended. They DO have a detritus-TON of fragrance oils in varying strengths. They also have a very comprehensive list of, ahem... "impressions" (or whatever your preferred term is for dupes) of designer fragrances. 

Anyway, please forgive my double post, but really I couldn't figure out a way to edit and append this to my previous post. (I'm new to CraftServer.)

Slainte,

Sponie

I only make soaps and beard oil blends right now but Save on Scents has very reasonable prices and has FO's and EO's  (I haven't tried an EO yet) that can be used in soaps, bath and body, candles, and incense. I'd order one of their sniffy packs to try some scents out first though.  

On 8/16/2016 at 6:09 PM, Gsmakinsoap said:

Thanks Jcandleattic! I think however the culprit is the mystery ingredient I added. I just went to refill my smaller bottle of castor oil from the big gallon jug, and there was still some left in the little bottle. Well, as I was adding to it, I saw that it was a different color from the oil I was adding. Hmmm. I realize now that what I thought was my bottle of castor, was a bottle of something else entirely. What exactly, I'm not sure. But now I know what happens when you add it to soap! I went ahead and dumped it out. This embarrassing turn of events will hopefully teach me to become a better labeler.

Out of curiosity, what was the color of the mystery ingredient and what fats were you using? 

What's your name? Sponie, or best offer... 

How old are you? Barely 40-ish

Where do you live? Florida

How long have you been making candles/soap/whatever? Candles? I've done it, nothing fancy, just stuff that you can put fire to and make light. Soap? For the sake of brevity, 4 years. Whatever? (My, my, aren't we forward? ahem... )

How did you get started making candles/soap/whatever? Candles/soap? meh... It's what we did on our farm, and it wasn't nice stuff.  Whatever? (There's that question AGAIN!!! I must say I'm TOTALLY feeling the love!)  

Are you married? Only on paper, and not for much longer...    

If candle/Soap making isn't your primary job, what do you do? What do I do!? I don't know! Should I know this? Frankly, I wasn't expecting a pop quiz just yet... 

Anything else we should know? I hope so! 

That's really cool Maya!