Thanks for validating the percentages guys. I've been sticking with 6% also. If I were to try the 464 I might mess around with a bit higher just to see if there is much diference but from what I've been told the more oil we use the different wick results we will get. I've definately noticed that my nose is de-sensitized. I took one of my candles to work to test it out at my desk and I could barely smell it. Then, to my surprise, a collegue walks in and starts ranting and raving about how good it smelled in the room (large room by the way). He even told me I might need to put it out because it was a little too strong after awhile. Just goes to show that our noses are pretty smart and create immunities to certain smells haha. Let's see, as far as scent testing goes, I have been using cierra candles frasier fir which smells amazing, Rustic essentials pumpkin souffle and candlescience cranberry marmalade. I'm kind of all over the place as far as vendors go. I haven't quite honed in on which vendor I like most but as you guys mentioned before shipping costs are the biggest concern so I try to stick with candlescience since they ship quick and are one state line away. Sidenote: testing of the premiers ..... I'm not too sure how well they are doing in the C3. To get a full melt pool, I need to be 793 or higher and definately need to let it burn the full 4hrs, however, the downfall of going that large is the size of the flame. These guys can get enormous if not trimmed to a nubbin before each use. I'm concerned omce I start selling them that our customers aren't going to follow the directions and burn thier house down. To be completely honest, I never read any candle direction nor did I ever trim a wick before I started making candles. Most people don't know that's even a rule. So, that's my dilemma. Trappeur, tell me more about the htp's and cd's. I have sample packs of both here at the house but never found a good combo. The htp's have a large curl which seemed to lopside the meltpool so I scratched them off pretty quickly because I like a centered burn and I haven't tried the Cd's yet. What is the difference between cd's and cdn's? I'm definately willing to re-think the htp's and possibly try the cd's but for a 3" x 5" glass jar what size would you go with for each wick? Have you guys ever tried LX's?