GoldieMN

I don't know why in the world my postings are coming up twice?????I'm only hitting the post button twice....

 

Hellllppp...Can you remove again for me please Vicki b/4 someone comes along and posts? lol.....thanksQ

 

Trappeur

Why are you hitting the post button twice?

Goldie

Oh my gosh, this is difficult. I love 1, 2, & 3. The addition of the black is nice with the black cap.

Goldie

I wouldn't worry about it, my turkey fryer is 200 degrees and its never presented a problem. I keep an eye on my pour pot temp and if it climbs past 190 degrees, it comes off the eye. Pour temp for my parasoy is best at 185 to 190 degrees. My wax is 75% soy and 25% paraffin. HTH

Steve

Thanks, Steve. Hopefully, I dodged a bullet this time.

Goldie

it can definitely change how the wax performs, the color and add a wretched stink to it. Happened in one of my water jacket melters last year. The wax only got to maybe 190-200, yet the overheated wax had a soy cooking oil stink that was not overcome by the fragrance added to the candle. Was worse when lit.

 

As far as the crackling sound, yep sounds like the encapsulated water in the wax. Imagine if a customer heard that - eek!

So glad you shared this and will slow down a bit to keep an eye on the temperature of the wax. There was one batch that I couldn't smell at all. Started thinking I had a senior moment and didn't add the fragrance! Maybe it was a batch that got too hot. I did not smell anything like soy cooking oil at all.

If you don't mind using spray paint, you can try the frosted glass spray paint like this on the outside of the jars: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Rust-Oleum-Specialty-11-oz-Frosted-Glass-Spray-Paint-1903830/100195608

I understand the look you want with painting the inside of the jars; love that look. Even if that worked, I think that would be really time consuming. Any spray paint cans have to be sprayed outside as well which could limit you.

Good luck!

Goldie

How about:

 

Fruit Festivity

 

Festive Fruit Delight

 

Sparkling Apples & Pears

 

Apple Pear Sparkle

 

Merry Apples, Twinkling Pears

 

 

Cheers, Georgialee

I like the idea of twinkling or sparkling in a name, too!

GoldieMN

Apple In A Pear Tree

Holiday Fruit Festival

 

I'm really bad at this.  Sorry. 

Good luck!

Those are good! I was thinking along that same line with the pear tree and 12 Days of Christmas. That might be a fun idea for 12 Scents of Christmas.

GoldieMN

Great. . . I was heating my oil to about 200 so I could get it into my Pyrex measuring cups and be able to add fragrance before it dropped below 180. Should I start over again?

If there's a chandelier dunce hat, I should be wearing it.

GoldieMN

Quickly is a problem if you don't stop the heat soon enough. On the way up there is still a climb after you pull the plug. I set mine to the 200 range and watch to turn it off when about 2/3 melted. There's plenty of latent heat to melt it the rest of the way. I stir a bit as it melts to distribute the hot spots.

Eta, i would not set the thing to much higher only because the bottom wax could easily begin to overheat before the cold wax above melts.

If the temperature of the wax gets too high, like over 200, does it affect the candle?

GoldieMN

I poked holes to the bottom of a number of jars and turned them over to see if liquid would come out. Didn't see anything. I didn't do it to all of the jars, though. I did start to burn one candle jar even if it was only a couple days since pouring it. I did notice some crackling. Not sure but thought that might be water?

It wasn't all a loss as I've learned so much from the misfortune. AND now I am cutting my time in at least half by heating the wax directly in the Presto. Got 43 candles poured today so 2/3's done. I can also see how useful a double burner will be as things move pretty quickly.

You are all soooooo great!

GoldieMN

Things are really flying today! The wax is melting and getting to 185 MUCH faster putting it directly in the Presto. Does it make any difference if it gets to the 185 quickly? Or should I have it melt slowly by setting the dial to 200.

GoldieMN

Well heavens, does anyone use their Presto like a double boiler? Not sure where I got this idea.

GoldieMN

Yes. I have a Presto pot with water in the bottom 4 inches. Then I use a tall, handled metal pot that holds the soy flakes with a thermometer clipped on the inside. When soy gets to 185-190, I pour into a large glass Pyrex measuring "cup" (holds 60 ounces or so). I read where I could put a metal cookie cutter under the metal pot so the pot isn't in contact with the Presto. Thinking that might prevent future problems?

Now, I'm interested in what you are describing. Do you simply use glass coffeepots on one of the burners? If so, no worries about glass cracking if that burner gets to a certain temperature? I wonder if I couldn't even use a glass coffeepot with an open handle in the Presto. Hook the handle on the top of the Presto... Just thinking "outloud" here. Good or bad, would like to hear your thoughts.

GoldieMN

That's fine. I just thought since there is no flame with the tarts it would be safe. Safety is my priority as well.

I certainly will try to cut into the solid wax to see if I get any liquid just to see; still won't use any of them to sell.

I mark every jar with tape indicating date, %, wick as they cool. Had I not just took all the tape off and put the new (bad jars) in with the previous jars that don't have water in them, I wouldn't have to repour all my candles. Oh well, it could have been worse in a number of ways.

So appreciate all of your help.

GoldieMN

Thanks. I paint my jars so can't see thru them. I will repour.

Now just had a thought. Would this bad wax be ok for tarts? Yes, would be selling the tarts.

GoldieMN

Yes, that is what happened. A tiny hole in the bottom of my metal pour pot. Is there a way to evaporate the water in the wax like heating the jars in the oven until the wax melts?

GoldieMN

Just finished my candle jars for my November 18 sale. I noticed white wax in my Presto as my wax melted in the wax pot. Thought I was just being sloppy. Today, the wax seemed cloudy all the way up to 185. I was going to contact Nature's Garden to see if they had an answer. Then I noticed a tiny hole in my wax pot. So I guess I have water in half of the candles I plan on selling in two weeks. Yeah, ready to cry.

Is there any way these will still be okay to sell? The tops are nice and smooth, but who knows "what lies beneath." How does the water affect the soy if it is in my pint jars?

GoldieMN

Some waxes crack badly when rushing to cool them. Patience grasshopper.

LOL

GoldieMN

I would imagine the candle would get harder faster, but I am not so sure it would accelerate the curing process that creates the hot throw. Are you simply wanting to make the cure/hot throw happen faster?

Yes, just wondering if that would work. No room in my frig, but there is the porch.

GoldieMN

Just wondering, can you harden the wax faster by putting the tester in the frig for a day or two?

GoldieMN

Some on this forum have suggested pulling out a wick and inserting a different one when not getting the results you want. In this case, you could try the same size wick but leave it a bit longer to see if that is the problem. If not, go up a size and see what happens.

GoldieMN

I really, really want to use Pa-rum-pa-pumpkin Pie, but I know no one but me would get it.  I'd probably go with Holiday Pumpkin Pie.

Follow your heart. Easier for people to remember which pumpkin scent they bought out of all the other ones out there.

GoldlieMN

I've gotten the best hot throw with these oils and 464. Many, many more to test, yet.

Apple & Pumpkin Strudel (Rustic Escentuals)

Christmas Bliss RE

MacIntosh Apple RE

Pumpkin Souffle (Tennessee)

Hansel & Gretel's House Tenn.

Pumpkin Pecan Waffle Tenn.

Mistletoe (Candlescience)

Christmas Tree (Fillmore)

Cinnamon Sticks (Nature's Garden)

I recently switched from 415 to 464 with Premier wicks and found I had to go up in size in order to get a good hot throw. Yes, I do wait two whole weeks (kills me) before testing. There are some scents I've given up on as I couldn't get the hot throw I wanted. However, there is such great information/sharing on this site that I've zeroed in on a few keepers to add to my retail sales.

GoldieMN

I keep reading that the fragrance evaporates if you dont pour straight away. But then I keep reading to pour at a low temperature so how does that work? Thats the complete opposite? Can someone please give me detailed instructions with temperatures I am very frustrated. I've been letting them cure for 3-4 days before burning. Oh and do you mix fragrance with metal or wooden stick or spoon? 

Thanks

I use 464 soy so maybe your wax instructions are different. But I heat to 180-185, immediately ADD my fragrance oil, stir for 3 minutes, then wait to POUR into my jars at around 130. So when you say "fragrance evaporates if you don't POUR straight away", I wasn't sure if you meant if you don't ADD the fragrance right away or really mean POURING the hot, hot wax immediately after ADDING the FO. I'm just wondering if that is what is confusing you as to when to pour into your containers. Also, I wait 2 loooooonnnnngggg weeks before testing (burning) my candles. Not sure what others use to stir, but I use wood paint sticks. Would be interested to know if that is the wrong thing to use. Finally, if I get a good hot throw all the way to the bottom of the jar, no soot on the jar, not too hot of a jar after a power burn, I don't care if my flame dances. Good luck, we all know how frustrating it is to get something you are happy with.

GoldieMN