mtt Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I have been using Phytowax for votives and just used up my last box. Can not find this wax anywhere. I did try the ecosoya pillar wax and do not like it at all. Can anyone give me some names of votive wax to use since I use soy or soyblend. I am looking for a wax that I can do one pour. My old wax was wonderful, never had to do a repour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanie353 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I have been using Phytowax for votives and just used up my last box. Can not find this wax anywhere. I did try the ecosoya pillar wax and do not like it at all. Can anyone give me some names of votive wax to use since I use soy or soyblend. I am looking for a wax that I can do one pour. My old wax was wonderful, never had to do a repour.I believe they are still selling Astor V at some places if that might be of interest to you. That isn't Phytowax is it? The name has changed a couple times and I'm not real familiar with the waxes in that line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanie353 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I just checked on Astor V and it seems to be a paraffin one pour. Sounds like you are looking for a soy. Hope you find a replacement for your other wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) Phytowax was the forerunner of NatureWax. NatureWax V1 was their votive formula. I found it at the link below:http://www.generalwax.com/p___Z48V1000.htmlYou could also use the NatureWax P1 & P2 (pillar formula).It's available from:GenWaxhttp://www.generalwax.com/wax/natural-candle-wax/cate_59/p___Z48P1000.htmlLone Starhttp://www.lonestarcandlesupply.com/products/candlewax_naturewax-p1-soy-pillar-wax.htmlYou need to add 5-10% triple pressed stearic acid to either product to aid with release and cracking. HTH Edited November 29, 2011 by Stella1952 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtt Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 I have called both places and they do not carry that wax anymore, I'm going to pull my hair out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyone else know of a place that I haven't thought of that carries Naturewax V1 or P1?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) Dang! I'm sorry. I ran down the list of Elevance distributors and those were the only ones who advertised the products on their websites... maybe they should think about removing them? You could call Elevance directly and see if they can direct you to a supplier or maybe even sell to you...Elevance Renewable Sciences, Inc. 2501 Davey Road Woodridge, IL 60517 USA 877-215-2795 630-633-7295 (fax) customerservice@elevance.com www.elevance.comhttp://www.naturewax.com/contact.htm Edited November 29, 2011 by Stella1952 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtt Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 Made about 20 phone calls and found a warehouse that had 14- 50lbs boxes left. They are not going to make naturewax v-1 anymore. They gave it to me for $50.00 a box. Made my day!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periwinkle Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I have been using Phytowax for votives and just used up my last box. Can not find this wax anywhere. I did try the ecosoya pillar wax and do not like it at all. Can anyone give me some names of votive wax to use since I use soy or soyblend. I am looking for a wax that I can do one pour. My old wax was wonderful, never had to do a repour.Why didn't you like the ecosoya pillar wax? (I'm new to candle making, and just curious because I ordered a small amount to try it out.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) They gave it to me for $50.00 a box. Made my day!!You lucky ducky!!! Glad you "scored"!!Why didn't you like the ecosoya pillar wax?Not MTT, but I feel the same way about the two products. PB is just... different... less HT, I think, and makes a heavier, more dense votive, if that makes any sense. I found the V1 was easier to burn. At any rate, since V1 is now history, it becomes yet another moot point... I sure liked that wax, dadgummit. Another one bites the dust... :undecidedI do use PB and it's okay - just liked the V1 better... That makes PB about the only readily available soy votive wax out there now... sigh...MTT, did your source say if they are discontinuing P1 & P2 as well? Edited November 29, 2011 by Stella1952 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtt Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 yes they are discontinuing all of it. I just do not understand when you have a wax that works so well and you got it down with all the testing on the wax, fo and wicks, makes you mad. I'm told they are coming out with a new one that they are testing now, but the testing wasn't going good. Why do they mess with something that works great?ecosoya pillar always came out greasy feeling to me, or I got alot of sink holes, color wasn't that great. Naturewax v-1 never had to do a second pour, beautiful tops and color was great, good HT and c throw. Hofefully this will keep me going until I retire and sell the business in another year.You can go to my website to see how nice they votives turn out.www.soyradiantcandles.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Why do they mess with something that works great?Just guessing, I think they are trying to "follow" NGI's lead and IMHO, that's a mistake. NGI may have a large market share, partly because of a very well designed and informative website (Elevance's just plain sux), but I don't like the greasiness of their products and their waxes just don't live up to all their hype... they just not "all that", IMHO. I, too, think Elevance should stand on their products and make more simple adjustments to their formulas and, for heaven's sake - do SOMETHING with that website! Elevance doesn't need "molecular blueprinting," "botanical oils" and all that fluffy "pure" greenwashed BS to promote a basically good product, IMHO.ecosoya pillar always came out greasy feeling to meDitto. Your votives look great!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periwinkle Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Thanks for the info. My head is constantly swimming with all there is to learn. I can appreciate how frustrating it must be to have products tested and perfected, and then have the manufacturer stop making your wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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