Caramel Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 (edited) So I had to put this hobby on hold for a long while due to being layed off and looking for a new job (no extra cash). I recently began testing incense and thought to start testing my candles again with unsuccessful results... so here goes my findings:__________________________________Scent: Apple Melon (NG - personal FO mix)Wax: 464 |Wax Amt: 8 oz. |Wick: ECO 10 then switched to ECO 8 |Jar: Libbey 6 oz. (2 7/8” dia.)Heated: 180* |FO Added: 180* |FO Amt: ½ oz. |Cure time: 24 hrs.I was unable to get an accurate temp reading, so I gave an estimate. I poured 6 oz. while hot and got a medium to strong scent. I allowed candle to set up for 24 hrs. before first burn. Good CT and smooth tops.- Test #1: During 1st hr. with ECO 10, the candle reached a FMP and the glass was warm; stopped test and decided to melt down candle and re-wick with ECO 8. Uneven/pocked top when cooled. - Test #2: Allowed to burn for three hrs. Achieved FMP during 3rd hr. Flame was steady; the jar remained luke warm/warm, no mushrooming and some hang up on the jar. All seemed successful with exception that the HT was faint. Smooth top when cooled.- Test #3: Allowed to burn for three hrs. Achieved FMP during 3rd hr. Flame steady, but low; jar luke warm/warm, no mushrooming and slight hang up. Still no HT improvement. L____________________________________Scent: Tropical Violet (CSci - personal FO mix)Wax: 464 |Wax Amt: 8 oz. |Wick: ECO 10 |Jar: Libbey 6 oz. (2 7/8” dia.)Heated: 180* |FO Added: 180* |FO Amt: ½ oz. |Cure time: 48 hrs.I was unable to get an accurate temp reading, so I gave an estimate. I poured 6 oz. while hot and got a medium to strong scent. I allowed candle to set up for 48 hrs. before first burn. Good CT and smooth.- Test #1: Allowed to burn for three hrs. Achieved ¼ “ FMP during 3rd hr. Flame was steady and fluctuated between low-med; the jar remained luke warm/warm, no mushrooming and no hang up on the jar. All seemed successful with an ok HT. Smooth top when cooled.- Test #2: Allowed to burn for three hrs. Achieved a little over ¼ “ FMP during 3rd hr. Flame was steady; the jar remained luke warm-warm, large mushroom developed and no hang up on the jar. No HT improvement. L_______________________________Scent: Blossoms (NG - personal FO mix)Wax: 464 |Wax Amt: 8 oz. |Wick: ECO 10 |Jar: Libbey 6 oz. (2 7/8” dia.)Heated: 180* |FO Added: 180* |FO Amt: ½ oz. |Cure time: 72 hrs.I was unable to get an accurate temp reading, so I gave an estimate. I poured 6 oz. while hot and got a medium to strong scent. I allowed candle to set up for 72 hrs. before first burn. Ok-Good CT and smooth top.- Test #1: Allowed to burn for three hrs. Achieved ¼ “ FMP during 3rd hr. Flame was steady; the jar remained luke warm/warm, mushrooming developed and was large at end of burn and no hang up on the jar. No HT. LI’m thinking that my wax may be a problem (it was left over from when I was testing over a year ago) or the FO (about the same age as the wax, but it smelled strong OOB). I also had some off-center wicking (either this or the curling wick). I’m really stumped and the only thing I can think of is to buy new supplies and start over… *sigh*Any suggestions? (Will add pics later- having trouble loading them) Edited February 25, 2011 by Caramel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwantItgreen Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 It's not your wax, it's the cure time. Some FO's need a week or two to cure. When I first started I had exactly the same thing happen. I got frustrated, put them all away while I tested another wax. Then about 2 months later, my daughter wanted a candle to burn so I told her to get one of those. Guess what? Mega HT! While not all FO work in 464, I wouldn't judge them on a 2 - 3 day cure. There is a ton on info on 464 here if you're willing to search for it.HTH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleasureridgecandles Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 I agree with the previous poster. Soy needs cure time. And burning your candle within 24-72 hours just isn't long enough imo. I normally let mine cure for atleast a week before I test burn them. Let them sit for about a week and try testing them again. And as said already do a search you will find tons and tons of info on the 464. Good luck!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caramel Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 @IwantItgreen- I was SOOOO hoping it wasn't the dreaded cure time. *siiiigh* LOL I searched here and some of my old notes and sites. But thanks for the response! I'm concerned about the mushrooming, too. I don't think I should wick up higher than an ECO 10 (concerned about glass being too hot). Or do you recommend trying a ECO 12 or switching to CDs or CDNs?Should I continue to test burn these even if there's not HT? Thanks for the help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caramel Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 I agree with the previous poster. Soy needs cure time. And burning your candle within 24-72 hours just isn't long enough imo. I normally let mine cure for atleast a week before I test burn them. Let them sit for about a week and try testing them again. And as said already do a search you will find tons and tons of info on the 464. Good luck!! I just saw this after I posted. I guess I'll sit these to the side and try testing my other 3 testers. Thank goodness I'm not dealing with dye, too... I think I'd curl into a ball and cry! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Patience. Candlemaking takes patience. While you are waiting, read, read, read, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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