Starr Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Something's been really ticking me off. So I've tried making sugar scrubs, it was kind of a fail...oh well. Anyway, one thing I noticed was that sugar was altering my scents. For example, I made a chocolate scent that within a week or two started to smell like gingerbread. I did a strawberry that after time started smelling like something undefinable. Now, I've used some WONDERFUL sugar scrubs from people on this board (and SYR, I'm hoping you chime in since I most recently used yours so it's fresh in my head) and I want to know why yours all smell so wonderful even after they've sat for a bit... please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQueen Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I truly don't think it's the sugar, but, hey, I could be wrong. I make a kick-butt sugar scrub and have tried several FOs, with my fave being Pink Sugar, and have never had the fragrance morph in any way. OK, I was absolutely no help whatsoever! :rolleyes2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted September 14, 2009 Author Share Posted September 14, 2009 It's the only variable. I've made chocolate soap, chocolate lotions, chocolate candles, no problems. Same with the strawberry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdesousa5 Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Maybe it is the oils not the sugar that is making the scent change. What oil do you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singleyellowrose Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 What formula are you using? Without telling us what ingredients you are using, it's going to be nearly impossible for anyone to help ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 (Duh SYR, I totally know better then to NOT give an ingredient list/recipe. I'm such a pain in the tush sometimes!)I've tried a few recipe's that's the problem. Typically we're looking at the following ingredients....M&POil (Sweet Almond, Avacado, Grapeseed, any or all of those)Butter (Tried Shea once, still got a funk)Preservative (LiquaPar)beeswaxFO's (C&S's as well as Just Scent) I figured out what the funk to my FO was with the Strawberry, it literally started to smell like it was fermenting. I got one good batch out of it that I did in a swap (or at least I never heard of a problem with it) but everything else went funk despite using the same recipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 Oh, I forgot, my Strawberry is actually from Candle Science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singleyellowrose Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Are you wanting a solid one or a jarred one?Me, personally, can't use most MP bases. They make me itch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 Well, I tried the strawberry jarred. That started to smell like a daiquiri. Tried the chocolate both ways, each started picking up a gingerbread type of smell. I've ventured into HP soap with well... poor results to say the least. I'm thinking of getting another cheap crock pot (killed the one I was using) and trying again sometime in the semi-near future. I ended up using MP because it's one thing I've had rather good results with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroMetroChic Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Are you using Brown Sugar? I do notice some smell in some sugars. Definately Brown Sugar, and I have had Turbinado and Demera that had and odd smell before, seems different suppliers sugar can be lighter or darker and have a tad different smell to them. But I dont' notice any smell really with white sugar, maybe you should try the white sugar then you could possibly try and narrow down the culprit. It could also be the fragrance oil you are using just has a funky note, Maybe Candlescience Strawberry is better for candles, I have it but havent' tried in Bath and Body. I use Oregon Trails for B& B StrawberryOr is it possible one of your oils has gone rancid without you knowing, this would give an odd smell also. If you are using Demera or Turbinado it could be that I do notice a bit of smell from these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 Used plain white cane sugar. My oils were good in other things done both before and after the scrubs. I've used CS's Strawberry in B&B without any problems prior as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroMetroChic Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 HmmNo clue then what it could be. The recipe does seem a bit odd I've never seen beeswax and M&P in a scrub, is this a sugar cube recipe or? I just made kats bubble scrub using shredded CP and it turned out lovely Maybe try that recipe, its a nice scrubMaybe its the combo of those things together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singleyellowrose Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 M&POil (Sweet Almond, Avacado, Grapeseed, any or all of those)Butter (Tried Shea once, still got a funk)Preservative (LiquaPar)beeswaxFO's (C&S's as well as Just Scent) What you have listed would work best for a solid scrub. You don't have an emulsifyer to make the emulsified ones.Grapeseed has a SHORT shelf life. I don't use it for that reason. Beeswax will most likely cause drag on the skin.Try equal amounts of oil and sugar. Blend together. Add small amounts of melted MP or shea. Let cool. Check consistency. If too runny, add another small amount of melted MP or shea. Let cool. Check consistency.Continue until you get the consistency you are looking for. Add preservative and FO.KEEP GOOD NOTES! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted September 20, 2009 Author Share Posted September 20, 2009 Perhaps it is a method issue. Next time I get gutsy, I'll give it a try that way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted September 21, 2009 Author Share Posted September 21, 2009 Ok. First Batch2.50oz White Sugar1.25oz Avacado Oil1.25oz Sweet Almond .50oz Already "treated" M&P (colored/dyed)Waiting on the results.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted September 21, 2009 Author Share Posted September 21, 2009 Ok, First Batch was about the consistency of loose applesauce. Not quite right. Since it was completely cool though, playing around with adding other stuff was pretty easy.So far I've added: .50oz Honey.50oz Shea Butter.50oz Palm Kernal (remembering that Palm Kernal can impact hardness, I was REALLY hopeful on this one).50oz "treated" MPI stopped and let the newly heated/added ingredient (except the honey of course which I didn't heat) incorporate and cool each time. I'm at about the consistency of cold applesauce now. Letting the MP cool now, lucky for me, with this small of a batch and the fan on in my kitchen, stuff's cooling rather quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted September 21, 2009 Author Share Posted September 21, 2009 Round 3! We're getting closer, something along the lines of... a loose cake frosting. If anyone's ever had to beat egg whites to stiff peaks, I'd say right now I'm at soft peaks. Anyway, here's the latest edition: .50oz Palm Kernel.50oz MPSo here's the totals: 2.50oz White Sugar1.25oz Avacado Oil1.25oz Sweet Almond 1.50oz Already "treated" M&P (colored/dyed).50oz Honey.50oz Shea Butter1.0oz Palm Kernal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted September 21, 2009 Author Share Posted September 21, 2009 So I'm getting restless. Took another check on it. Now we're at stiff peaks (again with the egg white reference) but there's still a teeny bit of warmth left. Going to wait about half an hour and that should finish cooling it to at least room temp. I took a little dollop and tried it out just on my hands to get an idea if this was even worth continuing with. It's NICE. My hands feel like a baby's tush. It's leaving a little bit of oilyness behind but as soon as you dry your hands, it's gone and you just feel soft and smooth. We might be onto something here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted September 21, 2009 Author Share Posted September 21, 2009 Note: Needed to add a smidge (.30oz) of FO into this. The MP was already scented but there was so much else going on in this that it wasn't holding much of a scent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singleyellowrose Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Add the FO and let it sit for 24 hours. Check consistency then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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