Angela@Floreo Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Hi, I have been making candles for over 3 years and have recently hit upon a new problem. I've tried to go "upmarket" and produce multi wick candles in glass containers. I am using my usual supplier of FO's and EO's and I am not adding ANY dye to them at all. The idea is that they stay a natural off-white colour. I use Eco-Soya Advanced from NGI and have never experienced problems before.I should also say that when I pour the candle it remains its natural colour, it is only when it burns that it turns a definite shade of green.What am I doing wrong? Please help.Angela Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandlekrazy Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 It must be something with the Ecosoya Advanced CB along with the FO, because it happened to me with one scent using this wax only...doesn't matter what wick I use (I tried about 6 of them!)still turns grey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni S. Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 What FO are you gals using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandlekrazy Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 I had it happen with a smoke and odor eliminator, but as I said before only with the Ecosoya advanced wax. Used the same FO in other soy wax and it didn't happen. Also used several different wicks to be sure that wasn't the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizbizzyb Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 http://www.candletech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33846&highlight=wax+discolorationhttp://www.candletech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43814&highlight=wax+discolorationhttp://www.candletech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21255&highlight=wax+discolorationhttp://www.candletech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21110&highlight=wax+discolorationhttp://www.candletech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11296&highlight=wax+discoloration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angela@Floreo Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 Great, thanks it's good to know that it's not just me! I too have tried different wicks, different containers and fo's from many different suppliers and it's always so disappointing. I'll contact NGI direct and see if they can throw any light (or should that be white!) on the subject. I'll let you know. Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angela@Floreo Posted June 10, 2007 Author Share Posted June 10, 2007 Hi again, I contacted NGI as promised and thought I would share their response to see if it helps anyone else. I'd be interested to know what you think - as I can't see how this relates to my tealights that also turn grey green? I'll keep following up if anyone is still interested- let me know.NGI Response" It sounds like you may be over heating the wax/fragrance combination. The key is to use the diameter/hour rule for wicking. If your container diameter is 3 inches then it should take 3 hours for the burn pool to reach a depth of 1/8 to 1/4 inch and be fully across. That means one inch per hour the reach a full burn pool. The burn pool should be no deeper than 1.4 inch. If so then the candle is over heating. this can cause discoloration. Using 4 wicks is a lot of heat with potential to over heat the wax/fragrance combo. You may either need to radically decrease the wick size or remove wicks to achieve the proper burn pool." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandlekrazy Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 While the heat response makes some sense...it doesn't explain why this happens only with 1 or 2 FO's...in 1 or 2 waxes...wouldn't it happen with all of them if they are all waxed and wicked the same? I just tell my customers ahead of time that the candle may turn grey after burning and it is a characteristic of that particular fo...which is the truth IMHO. No one seems to really care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleHippie Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I've had this happen with Jasmine FO. Using the same container and wicks it didn't happen with the other FO's. So I figured it is the FO since it hasn't happened with any other fragrance that I use so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindsaycb Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Maybe its more based on the FOs flashpoint & not the wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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