chrisasst Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Ok,first time using this wax and 100% soy..here is my problem. My first batch I did I poured my votives at a temp of 155. There was a little shrinking (V-1 supposed to be one pour right?) and I also get this white frosting spots on top...I figured I would try another batch. My second Batch I put in some Universal additive just to see if that would stop the frosting spots..well no it didn't. I still have the patches of white and shrinkage. I decided to do a second pour and now the top is cracking...What is the wax trying to tell me I am doing wrong?I melt to about 180 and pour from 150-165...what do I need to do with this wax...thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisasst Posted May 15, 2007 Author Share Posted May 15, 2007 well I guess I am going to have to go back to igi 4794.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayshapooh Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 I only tried once at making votives with the V-1 and had the same thing with the cracking happen and so I gave up. I thought of mixing alittle C-3 container wax with it to see if I could make one without the cracking happen but not have it too soft but havent gotten around to trying it yet. Just a thought Sandy~WI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni S. Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 you may be pouring too hot!!!! try under 150*...... i pour at 145* and have much better results. you're going to have shrinkage cause it's votive wax and it's supposed to shrink up.hth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accents Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 You have to add some container wax to it. About 2-3 oz pp of V1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisasst Posted May 15, 2007 Author Share Posted May 15, 2007 I did add some container wax (gb 415) all I have...durning a remelt of 3 votives and it did not help..could too much FO cause this to happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accents Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Are you mostly concerned with the frosting or the cracking? Also with the cracking, you can cool them under a box part of the time. The V1 just isn't real easy to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisasst Posted May 16, 2007 Author Share Posted May 16, 2007 well I can't sell them with either problem so both are a concern.. also I cool all my votives under a aluminum bread pan....I am just lost on this one.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violetsexoticcandles Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Ok,first time using this wax and 100% soy..here is my problem. My first batch I did I poured my votives at a temp of 155. There was a little shrinking (V-1 supposed to be one pour right?) and I also get this white frosting spots on top...I figured I would try another batch. My second Batch I put in some Universal additive just to see if that would stop the frosting spots..well no it didn't. I still have the patches of white and shrinkage. I decided to do a second pour and now the top is cracking...What is the wax trying to tell me I am doing wrong?I melt to about 180 and pour from 150-165...what do I need to do with this wax...thanksHi,I've had extensive experience with V1; it is a tempermental wax. During the winter, I had cracking like you wouldn't believe. Now that it's warm, I'm not having problems.Frosting comes from cooling the molds too close together.Cracking seemed to come from molds that were too cold. I popped my molds into the oven for the winter season and they came out better except the bottoms turned funky because of wax residue.Heat guns are good for the cracking. Cool them in a room temp setting, too.Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisasst Posted May 16, 2007 Author Share Posted May 16, 2007 update: I tried another batch and with my container wax added...I heated to about 175-180 and poured(2 votives) at 130 degrees..on one the top came out good and on the other the center of the top started to shrink in a bit...I took them both out of the mold and they and frosted on the sides..ugh..I then melted one back down...heated the molds, had it by itself and covered...well hours later I looked at it and the top has a sink hole in it and it has frosted again..Poured at 135 degrees....I guess my next step is to heat at a lower temp and pour at an even lower temp them 130 and see what happens.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 I gave up on soy votives..i switched to palm wax..its prettier & i haven't had one single problem. Well take that back..i have had acouple times having pin holes on top from air pockets, but a heat gun will fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violetsexoticcandles Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Are you using color? If so, what type?I've never really had frosting issues with votives, to be frank. Also could be you're not letting them cool long enough? I usually let my votives cool in the molds for around 12 hours. :rolleyes2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisasst Posted May 17, 2007 Author Share Posted May 17, 2007 I am using soy dye chips...I am letting them cool for about 10-11 hours in the molds..I will try to put some pics up tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 V1 is a tempermental wax. I think I tamed mine by adding a couple of tablespoonfuls of beeswax. We'll see when I test burn one later today. Excessive frosting can come from the particular color or FO you are using... My supplier consulted with his NatureWax rep and was told to try pouring at very low temps (like down to 125°) would alleviate the frosting and cracking. Cooling slowly with good circulation all around the candle (especially the top) helps a lot also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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