Tara Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Does it get thicker when you add fragrance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I neutralized with borax solution but I had already added boiling water to the paste before I neutralized. I am sure I added way to much water. I did boil it down yesterday but didn't add anything else such as neutralizer to the already neutralized soap.It is a little thicker. I have it in jars right now and it is cloudy. It does look a little thicker. I am sure it just takes a few times of flubbs and then it falls in to place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tara Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I neutralized with borax solution but I had already added boiling water to the paste before I neutralized. I am sure I added way to much water. I did boil it down yesterday but didn't add anything else such as neutralizer to the already neutralized soap.It is a little thicker. I have it in jars right now and it is cloudy. It does look a little thicker. I am sure it just takes a few times of flubbs and then it falls in to place. Oh I ditch my first 2 attempts so you are doing good. What I do now is boil my water and add the borax in with that and add my paste to all of that. It comes out to be a thick gel which is what I want. I don't know why but if I do it the other way it comes out too thin for me. But then I was shooting for more of a shower gel than a thin liquid soap. Now go over and sign up for the liquid soap swap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Does it get thicker when you add fragrance?Umm.. No. Not in any way shape or form for 95% of the fo's I've tried! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tara Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Umm.. No. Not in any way shape or form for 95% of the fo's I've tried!What does it do? I know some of mine turn cloudy but then clear up after sitting a little bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 It like turns to water! I can't believe you're never had one do this! WOW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tara Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Oh to water gotcha!! Just one and it was Aspen Glen from BCS. Other than that when I add the fo it thickens up more, and sometimes too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibiscus Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I've never had it turn to water with any of the fragrances I've used so far. I still always add the borax after the soap is fully diluted. I have added it before and after the fragrance and i pretty much have the same results. Which is a gel. The fragrance does thicken the soap and sometimes as Tara said it may appear cloudy to start but it clears up nicely.In my first batch I followed the instructions on about to the letter and my soap was opaque after I added the fragrance and it stayed that way but it was a very good soap. Haven't had that happen since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecandlespastore Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I neutralized with borax solution but I had already added boiling water to the paste before I neutralized. I am sure I added way to much water. I did boil it down yesterday but didn't add anything else such as neutralizer to the already neutralized soap.It is a little thicker. I have it in jars right now and it is cloudy. It does look a little thicker. I am sure it just takes a few times of flubbs and then it falls in to place. From my experience I add the dilution water, leave it overnight. Then the next day it should all be good to go. Then I bring it back up to a good temp in the double broiler, make my borax solution with boiling water and then add it to the gel. My gel got even thicker after that. I am working on a new recipe this weekend, this time not adding the borax. Liquid soap is so fun to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 From my experience I add the dilution water, leave it overnight. Then the next day it should all be good to go. Then I bring it back up to a good temp in the double broiler, make my borax solution with boiling water and then add it to the gel. My gel got even thicker after that. I am working on a new recipe this weekend, this time not adding the borax. Liquid soap is so fun to make.Thanks for the feed back. I think my crock pot didn't get the temp up to where it should have been for the overnight wait. I WILL get the hang of this. I am wondering why it is cloudy this time after boiling it down in the double broiler for the second time. I think it has gotten even thicker since it has set awhile. Things are looking up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecandlespastore Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I am happy it is thickening! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindsaycb Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 I'm confused....how can you superfat your liquid soap...if you're adding additional lye to it? Doesn't that cancel out the superfattening?I like the idea of Ellens adding more KOH, so how do you guess that number on what to increase it to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecandlespastore Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 You know what? I think I took different info from 2 different sites and got them discombobulated in my head, lol. I have to go find the site now that I got the superfatting info from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tara Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 From what I have read on the internet and in the book I have on liquid soap making, the only thing you can superfat with is Sulfunated Castor Oil (Turkey Red Oil) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecandlespastore Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Wonder if the fragrance of the turkey red would be in the final product though. That stuff is so stinky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tara Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Yeah it is stinky. I haven't tried it but I know it's the only thing that will superfat LS. I may have to try that next but I am pretty happy with my recipe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I've tried it. While I can't smell the TRO in the finished product, the soap stinks anyhow to me..lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tara Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Thanks Bunny, that's good to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Well..lol Does your unscented LS smell good? Curious now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecandlespastore Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Mine smells pretty fresh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tara Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Mine smells like unscented soap. My first few batches stunk like burnt oil--like after you cooked french fries--that smell. I have cut out the soybean oil and it's fine now. Not sure what you are using for your oils but everytime I tried soybean oil I would get that smell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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