StephD Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I ordered wax a while back and UPS rescheduled shipping from last Wed. to today. Well, I got it today and realized I ordered the wrong frickin' wax! I have been using EcoSoya PureSoy for my clamshells and it has been awesome. They're not too soft, nor are they greasy. Well, now, I got CB Advanced! Can anyone tell me how this differs from PureSoy based on use? I'm gonna keep it. I figured the least I can do is play around with it since I have jars and wicks sitting here. Anyway, thanks! Stephanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idacandlelady Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 IMO the advanced doesn't have the throw that the pure soy has. Try it though you may have better luck! HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephD Posted November 27, 2006 Author Share Posted November 27, 2006 Well, I'm getting ready to try it now! lol Can't just have a box of wax sitting around collecting dust. I've got 5 oz apothecary jars and am gonna make those and test after a few days. I'll post on how they do!Stephanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candleran Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Well, this is what EcoSoya says:PureSoyEcoSoya™ CB-Pure Soy has excellent adhesion to containers without preheating, requires only one pour, has an excellent scent throw with both fragrances and essential oils and a creamy white appearance with good resistance to bloom (white frosting) formation when using dyes.CB Advanced EcoSoya™ CB-Advanced Soy has extreme resistance to bloom (white frosting) and “wet spots”. It contracts slightly to produce a uniform beautiful appearance, requires only one pour, has good scent throw with both fragrances and essential oils, and a creamy white appearance.I would summarize and say that the later is more advanced :-)Eran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephD Posted November 28, 2006 Author Share Posted November 28, 2006 It really does have better appearance! I made four 5-oz apothecary jars and scented with cinnamon bun. Of course, they're curing for now, but they are absolutely beautiful! Not one spec of frost at all and the tops are completely smooth! I really never had trouble with the PureSoy in my clamshells, the tops always came out smooth and as long as I didn't use color, I had no frost, but the jars were another story! Anyway, thanks! Stephanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsbennis Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 I have used the Advanced and it sure does make a pretty soy candle, in my opinion it acts like a blend. My main issue with this wax was scent throw, some oils would be great but a lot were not so I'm curious to see how your candles throw once they are done curing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowded House Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 I'm testing the Advanced right now and am so disappointed in the throw because it looks awesome - sets up fantastic, resets up beautifully after a burn, and it does resist frost wonderfully. So now I'm attempting to blend it with other soys to see if I can get the best of both worlds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsbennis Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 I'm testing the Advanced right now and am so disappointed in the throw because it looks awesome - sets up fantastic, resets up beautifully after a burn, and it does resist frost wonderfully. So now I'm attempting to blend it with other soys to see if I can get the best of both worlds.I mixed my Advanced with a little CB Pure I don't remember the ratio off hand right now but it is in my notes. I think it may have worked well but I was having an issue with the CB Pure...could not get it to burn no matter what wick I used, I think I just got a bad batch, it has since been delegated to wickless candles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sally Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 I've been testing the CBA & it takes ages to cure,even with a strong f.o., looks good tho' but the curing times puts me off.I'll be trying the ecosoya 135 next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowded House Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 I mixed my Advanced with a little CB Pure I don't remember the ratio off hand right now but it is in my notes. I think it may have worked well but I was having an issue with the CB Pure...could not get it to burn no matter what wick I used, I think I just got a bad batch, it has since been delegated to wickless candles. I've got a mix of CBA and 444 curing now. It set up with the traditional 444 sinkhole but reset nicely after a heat gunning. I will be testing the burn tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowded House Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 I've got a mix of CBA and 444 curing now. It set up with the traditional 444 sinkhole but reset nicely after a heat gunning. I will be testing the burn tonight.Okay, candle is a 7.5oz double wicked square jar, Chocolate Brownie Special FO (one of my great throwers in 415). Wax is 80% CBA, 20% 444.Test burn is now at 2 hours. Burn pool is 1/4", a little hangup in 2 corners but no big deal. Aesthetically, it's beautiful.Scent throw?Meh to decent.Back to the drawing board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephD Posted November 29, 2006 Author Share Posted November 29, 2006 Okay, my jars are 2.25" diameter and I'm using an HTP52. I did a test burn because I wanted to see how the wick would do, as I'm new to wicking! Anyway, it curled a bit but I trimmed, but what is the time frame to depth/diamter of meltpool? I have it burning now and I can smell it faintly, doesn't really smell like my Peaks Cinnamon Bun, more smells like French Vanilla! I'm just thrilled it has some sort of smell! Anyway, I will do another test burn in a couple of days to test scent throw but was confused on meltpool/burn time.Stephanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowded House Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Anyway, it curled a bit but I trimmed, but what is the time frame to depth/diamter of meltpool? General consensus has it at around 1" diameter for each hour of burn time, but small variances are okay, IMO. Look for a depth of between 1/4 and 1/2". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephD Posted November 29, 2006 Author Share Posted November 29, 2006 Thanks! It's doing great then! Hopefully after a couple of more days for the others to cure, I can get a decent scent throw! StephanieOh by the way, I did find a problem. I did my test burn earlier and noticed that around the wick there was a triangle shape, kind of like a hole. I don't know how to describe it. I'm guessing maybe I need relief holes? I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowded House Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 That's a sinkhole. Usually a heat gunning will take care of that.To attempt to avoid them in the future you can play around with your pour temp. Around 135* has worked well for me with CBA (but as always your mileage may vary ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephD Posted November 29, 2006 Author Share Posted November 29, 2006 Thanks! At least I've got plenty of wax to play around with! lol I do like it, though. It comes out very pretty and the tops are so smooth! I'm gonna just keep testing! lolStephanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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