Meridith Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 I've made cp soap using gm but have never used it in HP soap. When I made the cp gm soap, I added the lye to the frozen gm to keep it from getting too hot and curdling. It worked beautifully. When using gm in hp soap, would it be the same process or is there anything I might need to know before proceeding? I'm worried about the heat curdling the gm. Thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Good question, Meridith. I'm going to bump this up for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo848 Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 i do crockpot hp and add my goats milk after the cook. i deduct 3 oz. from the water that the lye is mixed into and then add 3 oz. goats milk after my cook is done. i get no curdling, no ammonia smell and the soap is wonderful........cheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rougemarie Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 i do crockpot hp and add my goats milk after the cook. i deduct 3 oz. from the water that the lye is mixed into and then add 3 oz. goats milk after my cook is done. i get no curdling, no ammonia smell and the soap is wonderful........cherylwhen you say "after the cook" which stage are you referring to? Is it the vaseline/mashed potato stage? or slightly before that? Some clarification would be appreciated, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo848 Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 the soap looks waxy and does not zap.there are some very good directions for crock pot hp to the left on this board........under bath and body.........hth,cheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rougemarie Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 I followed the direction above just now (I cooked my soap in a crock pot, so far going so good) and waited until the waxy/vaseline stage to add the milk, then it riced on me very badly in fact, the batch was separating: there were waxy bits swimming in oil. I put it in the crock for for about an hour longer or so and I didn't think it was going anywhere, so I tossed it. Even when it cooled down in the trash can, I can see that the waxy stuff stays solid and the oil do not mix. What did I do wrong? I only add about 1.5 oz of milk (and I think I discount my water around that much too). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo848 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 did you read the crockpot instructions posted on th eleft under bath and body?cheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rougemarie Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 did you read the crockpot instructions posted on th eleft under bath and body?cherylYes, I did & followed the direction to the T on this website:http://www.candletech.com/hpsoap/And everything goes very well, my soap even reached the thick mashed potato/vaseline-like stage (which I believed is the last stage before molding, it turned somewhat translucent & silky), and I would have mold it by then had I not planned to put the goat's milk in. I poured the milk & stirred and quickly the soap turned into clumps of waxy mass swimming in oil (much like the applesauce stage, but it's much much rough-er/clumpier). The milk that I poured in is in room temperature (I let it sit on the counter for about 30-45 mins, and I'm absolutely sure that it hasn't gone bad/rancid). Any thoughts of why this happened?P.S. edited to include the website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo848 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 the only thing that comes to my mind is that perhaps the difference in temperature between the soap and the milk was too great. the crock pot i use has the ceramic liner which i take out and let my soap cool for a bit before i add the milk and then i stir like crazy.perhaps if you posted the recipe you used???did you add an fo or eo?cheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasBrat Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 These are the instructions on TDF site for making it and I did make some this way and it came out great. "Measure or weigh out 1oz of Goat's Milk Powder for each 8oz of water. Once your oils have been melted and your lye solution is ready, take out a lb or so of melted oils. Add to this small portion of melted oils the Goat's Milk Powder. Blend with your stick blender to mix well. Now add your lye solution to the main pot of melted oils as usual. Then add the oil/goat's milk blend to your soap pot and proceed as usual. No need to freeze or worry about over heated, scorched milk. " http://www.todieforsoap.com/soap.htm#GM%20Soap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rougemarie Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Thanks cheryl & Texasbrat for the replies. I use 30% olive oil, 30% coconut, 30% palm oil, 5% castor and 5% canola. I also use full amount of water suggested by the MMS lye calculator (use about 2% lye discount). I've had good success with this recipe CPed. I didn't get a chance to add my EO/FO/Color on the milk batch, it went ricing so quickly that I didn't think of adding anything.I will try this again tomorrow, but perhaps without the milk to see if the HP method is going well by itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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