Which would you use?

[ashncandles]

I'm comparing waxes online to decide on what to order to try out.. I have it narrowed down to 415 and Ecosoya Xcel I think. I had also been looking at 464, but a lot of reading said the 415 had a much better HT.

I'm not incredibly worried about the appearance of the candle as far as the issues of the frosting with the 415, but would adding beeswax help this?

[rjdaines]

Two very different waxes, 415 is a basic soy wax with out all the additives found in 464. Xcel is probably has additives as well. I have not worked with Xcel but do use 415 from time to time. Beeswax and the soy wax I have used don't work too well, usually making the wax more brittle and forming cracks. Some of us add paraffin to help with the frosting issues.

[moonshine]

415 if your wanting a good throw from a candle and Xcel if you want it to look pretty-

I have had great luck with a Xcel blend in melts but throw a wick in it and no throw for me....I gave up quick

I used 464 for a very long time and its a very nice wax- good throw and good appearance- I switched to 415 due to some burn issues with the 464 and the HT throw in 415 was way better for me

And as rjdaines stated- I also found beeswax to not work that great in 415 - I did like it in 464 though - have not tried it with Xcel

[ashncandles]

415 if your wanting a good throw from a candle and Xcel if you want it to look pretty-

I have had great luck with a Xcel blend in melts but throw a wick in it and no throw for me....I gave up quick

I used 464 for a very long time and its a very nice wax- good throw and good appearance- I switched to 415 due to some burn issues with the 464 and the HT throw in 415 was way better for me

And as rjdaines stated- I also found beeswax to not work that great in 415 - I did like it in 464 though - have not tried it with Xcel

Is there an additive I can add to the 415 to help with the appearance?

[moonshine]

You can use USA- it works very well with 415- and you can not use anything at all and play with tempering and pouring temps with excellent results to -pouring just before slush stage works best for me and from what I have read on the threads- most people

And I do preheat my jars

[ashncandles]

You can use USA- it works very well with 415- and you can not use anything at all and play with tempering and pouring temps with excellent results to -pouring just before slush stage works best for me and from what I have read on the threads- most people

And I do preheat my jars

Universal Soy Additive, gotcha. Thank you so much for the info!

[IwantItgreen]

Is there an additive I can add to the 415 to help with the appearance?

Paraffin!

Unless your stuck on using 100% soy. If you're going to add USA why not use a wax with it already added, like 464, C-3, Xcel, etc.

I like to add paraffin to about the 25 - 30%.

[ashncandles]

Paraffin!

Unless your stuck on using 100% soy. If you're going to add USA why not use a wax with it already added, like 464, C-3, Xcel, etc.

I like to add paraffin to about the 25 - 30%.

I am wanting to try Xcel too, I've heard good things about it. And it's available from my closest supplier (which is still a day's drive away lol).