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It was my tea light that caught on fire in the melter. It was scary. I was shocked. Not because I'm stupid and don't think plastic can catch fire, but

because I've used these tea lights for years and never had an issue. I also got mine from CS. Funny though, ya sure do see alot of them on websites

and also now being sold in stores by big name companies. As an example...I picked up these little candles from Bath & Body Works from slatkin that

are about twice the size of tea lights, in plastic. Funny that a company like that would take such risk using it when it's not safe. Just sayin.

debratant, I have burned those BBW candles in plastic too, did not have a problem, oops, I must be stooopid, lol!!! I did have 2 unscented tealights in metal containers catch on fire a few years ago that were purchased for a tl warmer. I have had plastic tl containers that never caused a problem, so really it is evident that any container can cause a problem. Nope, you are not stupid, and neither is the original poster, you just had a fluke container, and/or wick wax fo combo. Who will ever know? As much as I loved t lights, I will not use either type anymore, but that is just my experience and the chances of it ever happening to me again are probably next to nil. I just happen to like other types of candles now. Fortunately for all of us, there are some really considerate people here who will share their knowledge with consideration...as for the others, the Terms of Service in the FAQ section guides us on how to handle them. Have a good evening!

It looks like they are lit, so I'm with Wessex, deep meltpool...

Hi Steve, Great to meet you...keep us posted on your progress!

imc, yes, I suspected! Thus the word PERMAtex, lol!!! Have a good day!

Hi CW, that's how I do it too, for my testers, and I never use those containers in the final product. I currently use the hi temp glue gun. Do you use the permatex? Also, if I go that route, I want to be able to tell my customers how to easily remove the wick tab so that they can recycle their glass at the recycle center. From reading, it sounds as if that adhesive is next to permanent and could be difficult to remove, does it get soft enough to easily remove? In my area containers are preferred. And the recyclers are very particular about the condition they accept glass, i.e., no labels, clean glass, no debris. Good to hear from ya!

How do you remove the wick/permatex after the candle is burned so the glass can be re-cycled?

Ok they were all burning good for 2 hours. Then flickering/dancing. 1212 burning best of 3. Tested for 3 hours each.

1312-Tunneled left 1/4-1/2 wax all the way around

126-Tunneled left same as above but a little less wax left

1212-left less the 1/8 around jars

Relit all: 1312 & 126 stream of smoke immediate upon lighting. they are out!

1212 burning steady & true at this point

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Am pouring the htp's in the AM. Am testing the CD's tomorrow also, hope the 1212 works for you! Onward.......

I've tried doublewicking but still won't work, same results. Too big or too little. Goldilocks & the 3 bears for sure. Since I can wick soy almost correctly with the jar, I do believe its the 4627. I've gone through not quite 75lbs so far & with different jars. Wish I had good news for you but maybe someone else will chime in & help! I'll be watching & good luck!

ChandlerWicks, OMG 75#'s!!! That is a ton of candles! I read on this board that parraffin needs to cure a few days before testing, so that is my next step in the puzzle, have you noticed any significant difference after curing for several days, or is that step just for the throw aspect of the candle, once again, thank you for all of your helpful advice!

You're welcome just wish I had easy wicking to share. CD16 burned perfect for a little over 2 hours. Flame was higher then I like but still good. 3rd hour started the flamethrower & flickering thing. Way too big! Still left a 1/4" tunnel. Not just hang-up type tunnel but full blown tunneling. I ran out of CDs 12 or 14 so tried CDNs of those numbers. Did ok but not great. I'm ordering reg. CDs to test again. Keep me posted too, please!

ChandlerWicks, Thanks for the info, I poured a cd12 today, will test on Sat., and let you know. Finshed a 105 and by the end it was smoking and HOT! As I previously posted the 104 left too much hang up. Is this leaning towards 2 wicks? Doesn't seem the tumbler is big enough though....well we shall see, thanks for your help, and I will post what I come up with...

That's one of the jars I'm trying with 4627 also. Mainly 12oz status which is 3" in diameter also. I don't have any really good results to share but here's what I've found so far. Htp 104 & 105 have a steady, beautiful burning flame & always leave a 1/4" to 1/2" tunnel all the way down thru multiple 3 hour burns. Htp 126, 1212 & 1213 start out gorgeous & turn into flame throwers each time. It doesn't matter whether I use 6% or 8% FO. I have a CD16 burning & I can see it will be too big. Cd14 next! But the HT is much better then with any of the other wicks such as Eco, Lx, Rrd, Cotton, etc. HTHs

ChandlerWicks, thanks so much for your advice, I will try cd's too, keep us posted!

ksranch, will do, I have visions of grilling dinner over those wicks sizes!

Hi ksranch, Yes I have burned to the bitter end, the 60 z cleans it up the best with very little hangup, but not a completely clean glass, the 105 leaves a little more hang up. I did the 4 hour test just to see if I could get a full melt pool, didn't happen, so that may also be a characteristic of this particular wax? I just do not like the look of the glass with hang up at the end of the burn, am I being too particular? I am concerned that folks won't do as we have asked them to, and TRIM THAT WICK!! LOL, you know what I mean? Throw is great, no smoking, jars not too hot...will try upping the wick one more time.

Thank you rjdaines, to clarify, I am happy with the hot throw, I didn't communicate that properly. I am more concerned about the hangup and the "dirty" look to the glass. The 60z cleaned it up the best, but as I said...ewww the mushroom (on every scent I tested)!! I understand that that is a characteristic of zinc's. The 105 does leave hang up at the end of the burn, but not the mushroom. Is this just the way it is with 4627, or does anybody wick up to the 1212 or 126 to clean the jar up? Or, does anybody blend a different wax with the 4627 to take care of that? The jar is not overly hot to handle with either 60z or 105's, which I appreciate. I do have some 1212 and 126 on order, but, wow they do sound like flame throwers, we shall see. Thanks for your help rj!!

Good morning all!

I am in the process of testing 4627 in 11 oz Libbey tumblers(3" diam.), and have a few questions. I am using 7% fo and have tested the following wicks in Home Sweet Home, Christmas Past, Fireside and Candy Cane. Cold throw is marvelous, hot throw is good too. The wicks are zincs 51 and 60's and htps 104 and 105. I could not get a full melt pool with any of them on the first 4 hour burn, and the 60's and 105's finally caught up (with a thin layer of wax left) about half way through. I prefer the htp's as the zincs mushroom like crazy, but the glass does not clean up as nicely as I would like. If I use a 126 or 1212 does that seem like overkill? I do recall reading that this wax needs to be wicked up, but in my mind it seems like the 126 or 1212 would be torches. Am I overthinking this? Oh, and I live at close to a mile high altitude if that makes any difference. Thanks for your thoughts.

Cierra carries it, oob it smells wonderful, but I have not put in wax yet.....

I did place a small order and was impressed with their customer service, reasonable shipping and fast TAT...now to test those oils!

Have you tried calling the number on the website? Perhaps that would produce some results....

Thank you all for your input, sounds as if everyone has had great customer service. Any other fragrance oil "greats" that worked for you?

I did a search on Cierra, unfortunately couldn't access anything past the closing in 2008. Noticed that they reopened under new ownership. Does anybody order from them, how are there oils? Any favorites? How is CS and shipping? TIA!!

Just wanted to say "hi" to you all, and to thank you for all the information, I keep learning new things daily!