Thank you so much for the reponse. The pictures are from the second burn. The first burn didn't seem too bad, the flames were slightly large but the mp reached the edge at about 3 hours into the burn (3 in diameter candle, so that sounds right). after I took these pictures I trimmed the wick a litlle shorter and tried again and now they seem to be perfect, even better then the first burn. the candles in the first photos burned for about 4 hours for the first burn. Then after they cooled I lit them again and took photos immediatly. After I posted the question, I realized I should try to trim the wick. I then trimmed the wick and let them burn. So to make sure I am understanding your reply correctly and to post a specific question I am having right now, Is it normal for the flame to be a little bit larger or smaller until it "settles in"? Here are the new photos after I trimmed the wick. These have been burning for about an hour. The tumbler still has some wax around the edge maybe I will try to wick up.