Noodle, thank you. I forgot about the good ol' Chemistry Store and it's comforting to know there are others. I'm ashamed but desperate. I just placed and order for ONLY the 8 oz jars and lids and that's it. Typically, I would have bought more and spent at least $150. Tonight I only spent $32 and change. You're right. They have never included samples. It's not that they have to but it's a nice gesture especially for long time customers. I've noticed other companies always seem to throw in a Lagniappe and so do I for my customers to say, thank you, I really, truly appreciate your business and support. I will even refund the difference with my flat rate shipping if it's less. I just feel it's the right thing to do. OK, I rambled and I will step down from my soap box before I slip and fall. ... Oh, and for that earlier comment form Debbie at WSP, basically saying people posting on these threads are not really customers, I bet she will be taking back those words now. Let's see, they lost at least $120.00 from me this evening.