I had been using KY and it is wonderful, but after testing apple strudel from Wildfire, I am switching. It is excellent!!!!! I also really like JS amazing apple pie, it is different, kinda like the apple cider but with bakery.....I really like it a lot, but may rename it. FOH is excellent, but definitely makes me think of cobbler and not pie, it is very sweet, I really do not detect much spice to it.