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Doesn't look all that great to me. I'm sure I have barely skimmed the site, but the products look pretty far from natural. Even the packaging doesn't give a natural feel - so I hope that's not what they are going for.
k-mart with a huge price tag is what it looks like to me...
My two cents.
Bethany
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I have formulated a new lotion recipe and it uses OO. since oo is so expensive these days, do you think RBO would give the same result? Does RBO and Olive oil have about the same shelf life? What about smell? I don't have any RBO, but would like input before I buy some.
Thanks,
Bethany
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Thanks for all the great ideas! I am going to keep it like it is for now. But these will be wonderful additions for my next formulation!
Bethany
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I would love specific instructions on how to do crockpot liquid soap. Anyone who can direct me?
Thanks,
Bethany
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Hmmm, I have tried my salt bars and others salt bars and no - the lather just is barely there. those of you who get lather are you adding the same amount of salt as oils? - I guess the classic recipe is 25% shea and 75% coconut oil with the same weight of salt as oils- that's what I do and nope, no lather. I've heard most peoples experience is that there isn't much of a lather. I just use them on my face as I really like a rich, creamy lather on my body.
Bethany
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What if you made a paper label on nice paper or cardstock (I use parchment or linen paper). Cut it wide enought to cover your soap leaving the ends open so customers could still smell it. It's cheaper and people will likey just touch the label, not the soap.
Works for me and MUCH cheaper than the boxes.
Also you could go into shrink wrapping with the ends open just enough to smell the soap through. Again cheaper as well - less labor intensive than the paper labels - you can just slap a sticker type label on the front! When I get into higher volume I think I will switch to this.
Bethany
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In the past I used what has been termed the "Martha Mold" It a three compartment Martha stewart silverware tray found at K-Mart. It has square corners and sides. It is huge. Grease it with mineral oil. If you make a batch using 7 lb of oils and divide it into three you can fill each cavity to the top. (so each cavity uses a 2 1/3 lb of oil batch). It takes a couple of days to get the soap out of the mold though - unless you oven cure it a bit. If you cut the bars into 2 1/2 inch widths you get 7 bars that weigh 6 to 6.5 oz.
Mine warped with a really hot batch of OMH though so I don't use it anymore. That batch REALLY Gelled hotter than any thing I have seen before. I had never done an OMH in that mold before so I think it's the honey that gets it so hot. No other batches warped it even with oven curing.
Bethany
Bethany
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You're right, I know. But I think I want to play to find something just for me. Then maybe if others try it and love it I can sell BOTH.
Bethany
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People are snatching up my Body butter, but I have to say I find it a little lacking. I formulated it to be non greasy and is it ever! It seems to just suck right up unto the skin. I'm wondering if there isn't something I can add that would aid against moisture loss. Like leave a protective film that's not too greasy? Right now with the e wax and other regular stuff I am using Mango and shea butter, hemp, jojoba, ako, aloe vera juice, goats milk, water. Is there a liquid oil I should sub in or something? Olive maybe?
I was considering mineral oil - just a bit, but I've read the MO thread so I don't know!
My husband says "leave it - it sells" but I have a hard time selling something I don't totally love.
Thanks,
Bethany
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Container and supply
Elements bath and body
SKS
Specialty bottle
Those are the companies I have used so far. I really like container and supply because you can really mix and match lids to bottles, etc. And since I'm in WA and most of thier things ship from ID I get them really fast.
The majority of my packaging though has come from Elements bath and body. They have limited selection, but they are the only place I have found .5 oz twist tubes for my body balm. Great customer service too.
Bethany
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All from Aroma Haven:
Macintosh Apple
Monkey farts - not just banana - but banana is the top note - wonderful scent!
Bethany
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Hey! Actually it is! I never thought of it that way - I guess if it didn't get used we would just dump it somewhere.
See, that's why I come to Candletech - all you smart people out there!
Bethany
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I am seriously considering adding a bit of it to my lotions and body butters. People buy them, they rave about them. But I'm not sure I love them. something is missing - I made them to be non-greasy and boy are they! I feel like there is no "protection" there.
The reason I have so many questions is so I can back up "it's ok" and like the above poster said - it's pretty hard to avoid them. I think a lot of the "purists" would be surprised to find out what is really in FO's. I have no idea really - but it would be interesting to find out.
And I do have little issues with non-renewable resources. There's a part of me that wishes we could package in paper! The little hippy inside I suppose!
Bethany
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I have been reading this thread with interest and started reading just a little bit about mineral oils.
I have some questions that I haven't found in my research exactly thus far.
Isn't mineral oil derived from petroleum which is a non renewable resource? (As it is right now I find using plastic packaging a neccessary evil - but at least you can recycle those.)
What about glycerin?
What about Fragrance oils? They are all synthetic right? I wonder if they contain mineral oils (or the like) anyway so wouldn't people who use them already have it (though in a very small quantities) in thier products? I do use Mostly fragrance oils. I have just begun to use EO's - And I wonder if they have mineral oil in them as well as a carrier?
Thanks,
Bethany
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Both - I have converted many to handmade soap!
Bethany
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I gave out samples of my lotion bar in a lip balm tube and everyone kept accidentally putting it on thier lips! that was ok I guess - they liked it!
But I am going to the .5 oz tubes that Elements bath and body carries to avoid the confusion!
Bethany
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I do like the idea of a "sampler pack" Something you could sell for between 5-10 bucks. That's a good idea.
I do give out TONS of samples. At the bank, at the store, at church. And I do get at least 2/3 of the folks buying from me. But that's all just in my day to day. I don't have to make a special effort mailing, etc.
Someone told me that the other two soap vendors at the farmer's market I'll be at this summer NEVER hand out samples - what a mistake!
Bethany
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I made this and found it a little drying. I didn't use shea, subbed it for more Cocoa butter, used all SAO for the liquid oils. I think I will try it next time taking out the coconut oil and subbing shea or mango, OR doing all cocoa butter for the hard oils.
Bethany
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I don't think I would send out samples without a real purchase, mostly because I don't want to spend the time on that.
I do however ALWAYS send out samples with orders.
Bethany
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I use .7 oz for ppo as well, some strong ones like AH neroli, lemon verbena, and anything with lavendar I use at .5 oz ppo.
Bethany
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So do I. What's wrong with non-fat?
NOthing - just thought full fat would be more conditioning - but I think I will be sticking to non-fat.
Thanks,
Bethany
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Did you check out the free label Templates at www.onlinelabels.com they have templates for nearly every kind of label - circel and oval!
Nice labels BTW!
Bethany
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I don't think you have to for US sales.
Bethany
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Thanks for the replies.
I agree with EmpressC - My body butter is fabulous and VERY different from any of the big guys so why not charge at least what they do?
I think I will stick to my $8.00 - hey, I can always go down!
Bethany
Lush Soap?
in General Soap Making
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To each his own. And you're right, I shouldn't judge a book by it's cover. I'll give it a sniff in a couple of weeks. I'm going to a shop that wants to carry my products that is on the floor above a Lush in a mall. I'll stop by and check out the competition in real life - still don't think I'll buy though. I have a hard time buying stuff when I'm pretty pleased with my own.
Bethany