Ty scented, appreciate the help.. The 1260 is a high MP embed wax, the 4761 a preblended votive wax. I have never attempted pillars so this is what I have on hand, lol.. But the more I see your guys pics, the more I love em.. As for size I was thinking like the standard 3" ones, gonna look for a mold to try. I dont typically buy supplies from Hobby Lobby either, but thought it would be easier than ordering a bunch of stuff when I dont really want to make a bunch of them .. I understand the quality is much less when buying it that way. Thanks again!! Gonna give this more thought, lol! Tracy