Oh my. What a shame that such threads as this start out as unfortunately this one is, as ever, ill-informed and misleading to say the least. I know of this seller as I recognise the item and I almost bought because they were priced rediculously cheaply - no doubt reflecting the quality of the offering. We are all candle makers (or at least interested or we wouldn't be on this forum) and I wish for anyone who has had a duff batch of candles to step forward. At least this seller was prepared so sell them as seen for a sensible (in UK terms anyway) price. I have bought several items from this seller and as far as I am concerned the quality and service could not be faulted. Really, the person who started this thread must have better things to do. It is truly pathetic and waste of 6 pages of web space, not to mention all of the time of the individuals involved in the thread. May I suggest that this subject be brought to a suitable and timely close for everyones sake.....or does anyone really wish to extend the timewasting further.........??!