Cosmic candle creations

11 minutes ago, Marisa11 said:

Wow! That was fast. The scent?

80% Hot maple Syrup and 20% Coffee House. 

5 minutes ago, Marisa11 said:

Not a problem. Glad it helped. I would like to see any tarts you end up making with those coffee bean embeds!

Wish me luck on my eco 8 wick test with no mica 👍

3 hours ago, bfroberts said:

If that is a 3" diameter jar, Eco 12 is way too big.  Eco 8 should be spot on. 
You should also eliminate the mica.  It's very problematic.  

Edited to add:  Some people may not know this....a wick that is too large will tunnel, not just a wick that is too small, and Eco's don't have to be much too big for this to happen.  With 6006 in a 3" tumbler, you won't get a full melt pool on the first burn without using a wick that is way too large.  I see a lot of people that are looking for that large melt pool and they keep using bigger and bigger wicks, which then causes tunneling, and then they think they need a larger wick and just keep going up and up.  It's a vicious cycle.  

This was really helpful information, thank you. I am going to be testing an eco 8 to the bottom and see how that does. I have heard that you may not get a full melt pool the first burn and that's okay. I guess my thought of needing a full melt pool within 4 hours is incorrect thinking. This will definitely be changing my wick testing. I personally have thought that the eco wicks were not the best choice but I haven't had anything else to compare it to. I'm hoping I get better results with the zinc wicks. 

2 hours ago, Marisa11 said:

The Mica is pretty I wish it did work. I had bought 3 candles from a vendor not knowing 2 of the 3 candles had Mica in it and was pleasantly surprised when I did see it because I had not been aware that it was a thing. I’m am a girl so yay glitter!  However I was not getting any kind of HT and the flame was teeny tiny or would just go out on it’s own. When I told the vendor she said I probably cut the wick too short. Well I use wick trimmers that measure the wick to 1/4” and am familiar with candle care just not candle care with Mica. So I dumped out some of the wax and re-lit without trimming and still had the same issue. The vendor then said it was probably the new glitter she tried. (So no testing?)

 

the 3rd candle w/o Mica had a HT and I had no issues with it. 
 

look at a candle like a glass of water(Wax) and a straw(wick) now take a glass of water (wax) a straw(wick) and add some fresh Cut up fruit (Mica) to it to pizazz it up.
 

well when you put your mouth (the flame) to the straw and start sucking up the plain glass of water it has no issues going through the straw and into your mouth.  
Now the water with fruit the chances of getting a piece of fruit stuck in the straw of obscuring it are high. When that happens your mouth will need to suck harder to try and get that fruit all

the way through the straw to continue drinking it otherwise you will have to stop drinking it all together. Well the flame doesn’t have the ability to (suck harder) so therefore (the fruit is left stuck in the straw) the wicks go out because it can’t pull in any more wax through the wick and when you cut off the fuel to the wick the flame dies out. 
 

well what if you used a bigger straw so that the fruit pieces had less of a chance of getting stuck? Yeah that might work but the amount of energy it would take to suck on a straw that big and then you are consuming more water and pieces of fruit in your mouth than you can swallow causing other problems like choking (mushrooming) But still no guarantee no fruit will clog it up. 
 

on a side not you did a great job on the embeds as they do look real. I use Mica but in my wax melts to be used on a warmer.  You can use your embed making skills to add those to a cool looking wax tart. There is a big market for it and you obviously have talent for it. 

Thank you for all of that useful information. It seems I will be going the route of no mica on my embeds when placed on a candle, and only using mica on my wax melts and tarts 😕

5 minutes ago, Forrest said:

I can't really say much after just four hours, I wouldn't jump the gun until I got a couple of more burns in, things may be different once the beans melt into the wax. Unfortunately ECO is about the only wick I haven't tried in my 6006.

Hi Forrest!

What type of wick do you use with the 6006? I've just ordered a zinc sample pack. What are your thoughts on zinc? Also do you have any feedback on using mica? I'm second guessing myself now..

29 minutes ago, TallTayl said:

Thanks for clarifying the embeds are wax! I can breathe a little easier 😃

Glitter is problematic in burning wax for many reasons, so if at all possible I would consider not using it in your candles for gifting or sale. Some candle places sell a shipper dust which is fragments of clear glass that look like sugar that has worked well in my one and only with shimmer. Did not promote clogging, fire hazard, or chemical offgassing from the flame.

 

In 6006 wax in that size jar, yes, ECO12 seems quite large. The FO you use can play a part to choke back the fuel consumption and control the flame, but the wax is the wax, and ECO are a big wick that pulls fuel through efficiently.

 

Have you burned the candle as a customer would, by random trimming/not trimming and power burning? I would be curious what a powerburn would do on that combo.

 

A few 6006 mastermind experts may have other insights to offer with things to consider when wicking 6006. @bfroberts @Forrest

The longest I have test burned my candles is 4 hours and then I burn them again the next day for 4 hours. I do trim the wick though. How long would you consider a power burn to be? 6+ hours? What I am looking for when testing is full melt pool, no or little mushrooming, temperature of glass, and flame height. Obviously scent is important as well but I'm trying to evaluate the other factures first. However my scent throw has been awesome too. To clarify my glass tumbler is 3.25" in diameter. 7.5 oz, 8.5 to rim. The recommended wick was an eco 8, so I went up two sized due to all my candles having dye and an 8% FO. As for the mica, I'm a little perplexed. Many candle suppliers sell the cosmetic grade mica I use. I think it adds a lot of elegance to the embeds I make, and since it is not added directly to the poured wax, I didnt think it would clog the wicks that much. I am new to candle making though so all of this feedback is so much appreciated.

TallTayl:

Thank you so much for your feedback. Those are wax embeds, not real coffee beans. Yes, that is mica from the embeds. I would prefer to continue to use the Mica. I do not put it into the melt and pour wax, just the embeds that melt. When I was doing my wick testing i did not use embeds or mica and the eco 12 was perfect. I want to make sure I'm understanding you correctly. Are you saying that an Eco 12 seems to large? I have ordered a zinc sample pack because I have heard great things. Based on the picture I provided does the melt pool look okay or to small for the 4 hour mark? 

Hello!

I use single Eco12 for my white tumblers. My wax is IGI 6006 and I use 8% FO. The picture below is after a 4 hour burn. There is still some wax on the edges, so I'm curious if I should wick up a size. This is my first burn of this candle, with the embeds. The eco 12 works great on my other tests with no embeds. I am trying to prevent as much mushrooming as possible and I've found the eco 12 to be the best. Your advice and input would be greatly appreciated!