Hope

Lowe's, Home Depot, or whatever home improvement store near you should have some as well. May cost a little more online, but shipping cost may make it comparable.

Were you looking under "Liquid Dyes" at C-wic? there are only 3 dyes there. I don't think they're EVO either. But, the "Concentrated Liquid Dyes" has the EVO:

http://www.candlewic.com/store/category.aspx?q=cConcentrated+Liquid+Dyes

Lot's o' EVO!

What do you do when you run out of cash??

Feel free to add to the suggestions so that we may all cope, LOL

1. Call the fragrance supplier and exclaim that they forgot a bottle..

err..or two; in the order (joking)

2. Sell stuff on EBAY to support the habit.

3. Find a sugar daddy/babe....

4. Panhandle with a pour pot.

Interesting. Anyone have any personal experience using copper molds for candles?

For anyone who’s interested….

(BTW, not 'linked', copy & paste the blue)

Saran wrap is now made with polyethylene. Was originally made with PVDC (polyvinylidene chloride).

For more info, see Saran’s FAQ…

saranbrands.com/faq.asp

Here is an interesting article on some plastics by Chevron Phillips. Quote about LDPE film: "Conversely, LDPE offers high gas permeability, sensitivity to oils and poor odor resistance." It’s the gas permeability that concerns us, as we’d prefer to keep the FO in our products…. Not exiting through a quite permeable plastic! I suppose if the candles just really sucked, there wouldn't be much a problem to begin with...

cpchem.com/enu/top_stories_9731.asp

Polyolefin definition from…

Answers.com: (organic chemistry) A resinous material made by the polymerization of olefins, such as polyethylene from ethylene, polypropylene from propylene, or polybutene from butylene.

Wiki.: A polyolefin is a polymer produced from a simple olefin, or alkene as a monomer.

Polyproplyene and polyethlyene are both in the polyolefin family. So something advertised as polyolefin can be either, or something else.

Cellophane was originally made from cellulose. But there are now various petroleum substitutes available.

Ex:

pak-sel.com/sub1.htm

papermart.com/index/index_retail_paper.htm

Anyhow, FWIW... :smiley2:

I make my candles in the shop but I test them in my home. When I wipe down the counter tops and walls in the shop my towels are black. No candles have ever been burned in the shop. I use both soy and paraffin waxes. So is it common to get soot strickly from the melting of the wax in the presto pot?

Perhaps if you're using wood & fire to heat that presto pot. Under normal circumstances it seems highly doubtful, but anything's possible...

Is your shop by a highway? Or is it near a place that would emit large quantities of black carbon? I knew someone who live right by a very busy highway, and she'd remark about having to wipe things off frequently because of the noticeable black carbon buildup.

Although I haven't performed any sort of scientific exp. on them, they seemed to be stickier than a couple others that I've used. I've used them on slightly chilled to the touch, unwashed glass jars without a problem. PM'd.

I'm assuming polyethylene is the same as polypropylene? :undecided

They aren't the same(chemically). Polypropylene (PP "5") is quite resistant to FO's, and makes for a good votive wrap. Low(er)density polyethylene(LDPE) sandwich storage bags should be left to the sandwiches. And not all PE's are evil... High density polyethylene(HDPE "2") serves well as a FO bottle.

Have you tried BCN's? They've worked quite well for my jars. Haven't had any weak adhesion issues with them.

I'm still skeptical. Not sure why. I guess I would just feel better with a tab designed just for this type of wick.

Would something like this help?

http://www.candlewic.com/store/Product.aspx?q=cSustainer+Bases,p342

ETA: Very nice presentation of the experiment! Thanks for sharing.

Do I need to make my candle larger than 6 oz. to accomplish this?

No, not necessarily. I have some FO's that stink up a room real fine with a 4 oz. tin. Potency and quality help in that dept.. Hope you got a good supply of mad money, b/c finding those good FO's with the scent quality you want, sure can give make money evaporate quickly out of the pocket book!

I have one of those mason jar candles I picked up at the grocery store a couple of weeks ago to see how they burned. The wick is not attached to the bottom and after a few days of sitting in a different environment FO was leaking out. There are two small puddles on the top of the candle and some on the side. Needless to say I haven't burned it. I'm just going to save it to show people you get what you pay for.

I picked up a couple of them too. (Curiosity got the best of me at the grocery store.) While digging the wax out of one, I noticed the wick wasn't secured at all. There was probably ~1/4" of wax between the wick tab and bottom of jar. Crazy, esp. with the bottom being convex. Oh well,... whaddya expect for a dollar?!?

Personally, I like SherriLynn's method of multi-level selling better!

The SherriLynn MLM method does seem like a good technique...

I'll say it again, pyramid schemes are illegal and were done away with decades ago.

Here's the difference:

1. In a pyramid scheme, the top dude makes all the money. In MLM, you can make more money than people who have been distributors much longer than you have. It HAS to be this way to be legal. Those who work and help other become successful are the ones making money.

2. In a pyramid, typically you were paid to recruit. In MLM, this is absolutely illegal. The only way to make money in a Network Marketing company is to have product flow. Also, there is a required mix of retail/personal use of any product sold in a distributor's business. If I get $100 of product from the company, I have to retail a certain percentage of it. I can't just "stock up" on product.

3. In a pyramid, there was no support. MLM? You'll get more than you want sometimes.

From Wiki... (b/c what I'm thinking is already conveniently written )

Yeah, it just ain't right. The parroted zippy key words/phrases and such must be part of the pyramid scheme formula. Either you're instantly repelled by it, or it turns the brain to a mush which can be used as a growing medium for an implanted symbiote. (Which will help further their agenda.)

I tried to hint in a nice way to no avail. But on the other hand, if I don't come out and be blunt (lol), I am not a good friend either.

All the emphasis is on making $$$$$$ with them.......

Wikipedia has a nice little article about "Pyramid Scheme". I can understand the frustration. A friend of mine bought into a different MLM thingy some time ago. No matter what I said to him, it didn't matter. He had already been sprinkled with a liberal application of stupid dust.

Old Williamsburgh Candle Corp, Brooklyn, NY.

I saw some of their 8 oz. square mason jars on sale (not clearance) for $1.00 each. That's some crazy sales volume they must have.

VS's Supermodel 2-in-1 Candle/Massage Oil is on clearance right now for 18.99. Initial post is over a year old, but sounds like you're right.... discontinued. I wonder if I get one and rub it in real good, I'll wake up looking like a supermodel... I'll have to remember to keep the fan going on high so I can do the hair flips with my long hair as I wake up. Oh wait,.. clearance... it probably doesn't work. Oh well.

And Hope, I did read your answer wrong...my apologies. But if you don't show her how you got the answer she will never be able to figure it out again.

I just interpreted your response post, "I'm not sure how or what Hope did....". So, no apologies needed, I should've shown the work... but I thought it'd further confuse the situation. It's all good. Oh well, now harley1231 now has a thread chock full o' helpful formulas. You're right, for the record, the formula you used is typically what I do for accuracy (making sure those %'s add up nicely!).

Original Q:

I have a 1oz fo sample and I would like to make soy candle containing 9% FO.

Can someone help the math challenged newbie and tell me how much wax I should use?

Gotta love them story problems!

I'm even more confused.:undecided

anyone else wanna give it a try or vote between the two ?

The difference between our answers is just over a quarter of a gram. I answered with a quick calc. that has a rounded amount for the wax needed w/o showing work.

1 oz. FO / 11 oz. candle = 9.090909% FO/candle

Georgia's shown method is feasible if you wanted the work shown and wanted the gram amount. It's good for precision. Also good for confusing a mathmatically challenged newbie. So, 10.00 oz or 10.01 oz wax...

Zoovy.com has an 'in the news' section for their company. There is an article commenting on how that BuySafe feature is being used for more than just ebay now. Candlemaker's may have received that feature for cheap or free when they started using zoovy. I'm not trying to defend C-maker's decision or whatever, just trying to throw another possibility of why it now exists on their site. They'll probably read this board and see how it is initially perceived.

10 oz. = 9.09%

After a quick look at the zoovy site, it appears that the BuySafe thing is their optional feature to build sales by increasing trust. Seems to be initially used for auctions.

(The difference in Grade A and Grade B....remember that?)

I remember that. :smiley2: It is interesting that Candlemaker's would use that service. Esp. when it seems that suppliers would rely more on retaining repeat customers and a good reputation to help draw more, than a third party 'guarantee' system. Of course I don't know the full scope of their business, but I do wonder why they may think they need that feature.

Priming wicks...

http://www.candletech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1997

Thread born on 10.6.06.