dustinryan2010

2 minutes ago, bfroberts said:

If you aren’t sure, make another tester one wick size up to compare. Then choose the one you think is best.  I find it helpful to do a side by side comparison.

Yes I did that actually, this ones a CD3 I did a CD4 as well but that flame was a little unruly the first few burns so I just stopped and continued on with this one. This is the same candle on the next round of burning, flames much better!

I’ve been using CD wicks with 6006 in my 9oz straights, so far the throw has been great and not really experiencing any soot. I’ve been wicking to leave some hang up on the first half of the candle. Right towards the middle of the candle, the flame gets sort of small, Im thinking maybe the wax cling on the walls of the vessel is melting and the wicks trying to catch up. The flame stays small for a few burns during the middle of the candle, and once all the cling catches up and melts down, the flame returns to normal throughout the rest of the candle. Would you guys wick up? Or call this a success? Don’t want too weak of a flame. It’s about a half inch tall flame 

Thank you all for your input! 😊

I’ve been conducting burn tests on a 2.75 inch diameter jar, using 4 hour intervals. Should I be doing 3 hour intervals instead? What’s everyone’s general ruling on burn times for testing, according to container diameter? 

4 hours ago, bfroberts said:

I've used a bunch of 6006, and IME it has gone through a subtle change over time.  I originally wicked it with zinc wicks exclusively, but they no longer seem to be a great option.  The newer 6006 wax I've purchased seems more viscous, and a little harder to burn.  I did some really extensive testing last year to find the best wick for it, and I landed on Eco wicks.  LX wicks were my second choice.  The Eco's burn hotter and seem to be able to handle 6006 better than some of the other options.  They do not always self-trim, but the burned wick can easily be broken off before relighting, and it usually breaks off perfectly to start the next burn.
Personally, I don't care for CD or HTP in this wax, but the right combo can burn very nicely.  Eco is the more consistent choice, and one size fits most FO's.  
Worth noting:  I use 6% FO, and cure for 2 weeks.  6006 burns better after a good cure, regardless of wick type.

I just started this past year so can’t speak on its original state but I will say I don’t feel like zincs are strong enough, some fragrances really make the flame struggle and stay low, I ordered both Eco and Premier sample packs, gonna give these candles 10 more days then rip into them. You’re Bonnie from the Facebook candle group aren’t you? 😝🤓

3 hours ago, ErronB said:

 

I'll have to dig out some Eco's again, what sizes were your most common for the flint jars just under 3 inches? Around a 4?

 

I'm messing with the weird round tube wicks in 6006 at the moment, kind of weird that they're working pretty good considering how thin the wood is.

I think CS recommends an Eco 2 in a 9oz flint jar. You’re testing the spiral wicks form wooden wick? How are they coming along? I’ve been curious to give those a shot! 

10 hours ago, ErronB said:

I can only use the 12's in small tins etc, I know what you mean. I don't understand LX wicks enough to get them to self-trim, the bigger ones always just mushroom and grow bigger even at 6% fragrance load in no matter what wax I'm using. Not sure if they have to start the burn at a magic length or something.

Yes the mushrooming can get bad, I had originally started off testing with an 18 per recommendation and wow, huge shrooms.  6006 is a monster

9 hours ago, ErronB said:

 

Yeah, HTP act weird to me too if I do the whole 1/4 inch thing. Premier are always a 'nearly there' for me, can get a pretty decent burn but I feel like the HT isn't as good as it could be. Last time I switched out a Premier for an LX and the difference was very noticeable. I guess it depends on the fragrance etc.

 

Ah... the joys of wicking. Let us know what you end up using.

I have some LX’s too but I feel like the 14 is almost still too much sometimes? Mushrooming large bouncing flame etc. 

16 hours ago, ErronB said:

Don't trim the wick to 1/4 when you first start it, leave it longer so it has enough wick to curl over and start burning itself already. That usually get's over the problems starting off. 

 

Still, you're not going to get a candle to self-trim well unless the wick REALLY likes the fragrance at 8%. Especially when you get to burning the bottom part of the candle, it get's real fun there. 

 

The only time I use 6006 is when I'm double wicking in a big container, I love the HT with dual zinc wicks, just not a fan of it in single wick candles.

Funny you say that, I literally was having to keep the wicks 1/2 in long on the first burn just to get a decent sized flame in the beginning, trimming to 1/4 left me with a PUNY little flame that took a long time to grow to anything substantial enough in size. I’m hoping premiers will be a better choice, more sizes to “fine tune”. 

12 hours ago, bfroberts said:

While you're at it, you might want to try Eco and LX wicks in your 6006.  Also, the longer 6006 cures, the better it burns, regardless of wick type.

I just made some wick less testers that I’m gonna let sit for 2 weeks. Ordered premier and eco sample packs. Hoping I can get this figured out! 

9 minutes ago, Laura C said:

Hi @dustinryan2010. I don't have experience with 6006 wax. Sounds like you've ran the full gamut of HTP wicks and have exhausted your options. Would be a good time for you to try another type of wick. Have you tried performa, premier or cotton core wicks? Those are some of my favorites. 

I have not yet, I think I’m going to order a Premier sample pack from Flaming Candle though! I’m not sure what else to try 

Currently trying to move from zincs to HTP, not a fan of zincs for various reasons. Im using a 9oz straight side jar and using 8% fragrance load. I’ve gotten all the way down to an HTP52 and still having large flames in the beginning of the burn that eventually mushroom and turn into a much smaller flame. Some fragrances more prone than others. For instance, Candle Sciences Clean Cotton and Lovespell seem to do relatively well, melt pool and throw is satisfactory and not much mushrooming, though the flame is a little high towards the end of 4 hour burns, then on the other hand, Caribbean teakwood has a high flame throughout that eventually mushrooms and decreases in size. Should I wick down even further from a 52? I figured with this fragrance being a heavy one, I’d have to wick up? So confused. These small HTP’s are generally for tiny votive like candles and still seem to be too much for 6006. 

35 minutes ago, Forrest said:

My best guess would be that if you don't trim the wick you'll have a FMP before the end of your second burn. I

Just a guess, but if that is true perhaps a CD6 would work.

Yes I think if I left it Untrimmed it would get to a full melt pool within the next burn, when trimming, it takes a few more burns. I wish everyone just knew to trim and did it. Sigh...

3 hours ago, TallTayl said:

How does it smell?

zinc tend to mushroom. 
 

don’t listen to every expert on Facebook. They’re all experts. Just ask them. 

Smells pretty great! I Feel like I may get a slightly better throw with HTP’s, but I don’t like the soot, curling, large flames 🤦🏻‍♂️ 

Good ol’ zinc mushrooms lol

Does this look like an acceptable amount of cling for a 1st 4 hour burn? I thought it was but someone on Facebook said it looked under wicked and made me second guess myself 🤦🏻‍♂️ Said I was relying on the warmth of the jar to melt the outer ring of wax instead of the flame/wick. I thought both of those things went hand in hand? Confused. Will post a pic of the hardened wax once it solidifies. This is also 6006 with a zinc 44-28-18, Caribbean teakwood fragrance 

1 hour ago, CaptnKush said:

Thought I would make a topic for posting funny things you shouldn't do. This is supposed to be how you make a Yankee candle. The wick setting is the best part. Enjoy

 

That's gotta be the worst one I've seen haha

On 7/21/2019 at 3:54 PM, Laura C said:

 

@angelcandles you should check out this post and watch this guy's wick testing video. And be sure to look at the links he has posted on the YouTube page. Overall he makes a lot of sense and makes some good points. I'm just not sure why he isn't concerned with all the build up of thick, black soot on the jars. He doesn't address that and it drives me nuts, for me that's a fail. I technically understand why he says his Winning Test candle passes but it sure looks bad and had tunneled, I didn't like the aesthetics of it at all. It certainly is a juggling act. I should ask him some questions, maybe he would respond. Search on here for other wick testing posts, you should find some more good ones.

 

I actually saw your comment on his video. He did not seem pleased at all by your inquiry 😂 That winning candle looked terrible!

1 hour ago, BusyBee said:

You would need to go little bigger on HTP wick size  for your candle.

 

https://www.theflamingcandle.com/wick-guide/

 

http://www.atkinsandpearce.com/candle-solutions/product-pages/htp/

Yeah I’ve seen those guides, I use a 52 or 62 in joy wax and 6006. Guess I’ll probably have to bump up to a 73 or 83 with 4630 

11 hours ago, ErronB said:

 

A 3 inch wide container? That's too small, I'd start with something a few sizes up.

Slightly under, about 2.88 outer diameter, less inside diameter 

4 hours ago, ErronB said:

My latest batch of 4630 is burning nice same as always, very clean burn for having no soy. Got Macintosh Apple at 6% burning now and even in a small tin it's got a pretty nice hot throw. 

 

I usually use HTP or LX, zinc is a last resort for me.

I plan to test zinc last. Currently using it in 6006 and it's okay but hate the absolute need to trim them and the mushrooming. With 4630, do you think an HTP 52 would be a good place to start testing in a 9 ounce straight side?

On 12/31/2019 at 9:21 AM, bfroberts said:

It is possible with 6006 and LX wicks.  I make a lot of those.  I also use 4630 with zinc wicks in the flint jars. I use 6% FO and cure for 2 weeks.

Would you say a 44-28 or 44-32 work in the flint jar with 4630? Do you also cure 4630 for two weeks?

3 minutes ago, Belinda said:

I got some samples from them and so far everything smells great OOB. I haven't put anything in wax yet but hopefully will do that this week.

I’m hoping they’ll work well in wax. Cannot beat free shipping!

7 hours ago, TallTayl said:

Well, the one thing I learned after a couple of decades of producing candles for retail is that these “new experts” don’t last long. 

If only there were more knowledgable folks like you guys on YouTube lol. 

On 1/25/2020 at 5:39 PM, CandleRush said:

Studio fragrance ships for free now! Has anyone else ordered fo from them?

I ordered a few samples from them, haven't gotten them into wax yet but they smell amazing! Lavender Vanilla and Cactus Flower and Coconut