20 hours ago, bfroberts said:

Suede & Tabac, Caribbean Escape, Bamboo Sugarcane, Santa’s Pipe, Vanilla Bean Noel. All those are strong in multiple types of wax. Their Gardenia is strong but it’s not my favorite gardenia.I also like the Lime Margarita.

Thanks, I think my wife would like Caribbean Escape and Lime Margarita. Suede & Tabac sounds like something I would like

1 hour ago, TallTayl said:

Magnolia is another powerful one in my waxes. 

I really like their Dragons Blood, but my wife and I disagree on that one.

I’m looking for anyone that could give me Crafter’s Choice FO recommendations for use in candles. Wholesale supply Plus has 1235 FOs, most of them are Crafter’s Choice. The ratings and reviews are useless because 98% of them are from people making soap. To make matters worse the cost limits the number of FOs I can buy just to try out. I don’t expect that because an FO works for someone else that it will work for me. I would just like to know that someone put the FO in wax and it worked for them.

17 hours ago, NightLight said:

The answer is this I think. That wax is extremely soft. Two wicks may even be too much. You could try eco .75 two of them, not enough try eco 1, or 1.5. You may need just one wick when that wax is that soft. I’m doing tests on a similar parasoy and yes, tiny wicks.

multiple wicks on soft wax is very hard to do because halfway down the wax is liquid. So either smaller, fewer wicks, or adjust your wax by making it harder by adding some soy like 415 wax to modify. You could try 10-15 percent see if you still get the adhesion but it would help with wicking.

I think one wick would be tricky in a container that size. I might get a bit of that rock hard tart wax and add that. I also have some old GW 454 that I could try. What I don’t want to do is mess with my HT, that’s working well for me right now. I tried a blend og the MP-117 and some questionable 6006 and it killed the HT.

On 12/29/2022 at 9:20 AM, TallTayl said:

In cases like that I play with wick positioning. Sometimes  you just need a little extra width of flame in wider jars. Placing the wicks closer sometimes does the trick. I’ve gone as close as overlapping wick tabs on occasion with a lot of luck. 
 

when wicks are positioned wide  the glass can often heat too quickly for many waxes. You know what happens next: the soft wax forms a deeper than needed melt pool and the balance goes off like an overloaded washing machine load of heavy towels. 
 

I’m not familiar with your wax. But that’s how I would approach it. Every wax has its own container dimension sweet spot. Trying to make it work in other sizes can be tricky. 4”-4.5” wide containers are a very cumbersome size to conquer for some reason. 
 

can’t wait to hear how your candle turns out! 

I think I might have to accept some unmelted wax to get the wicks far enough apart to keep the MP from getting too deep, but I would be OK with that. I don’t see how I can get a FMP without it being too hot on the inside or outside. Right now I’m using a WI-725, which is too big, but the WI-720 is too small. My other problem is the expense of experimenting with these big containers, the cost of wax and FO adds up quickly. But I’ll try a couple of double wick candles and see if I can make it work.

I have some glass containers with a 4.5 inch diameter which I triple wick using CS’s MP-117 wax. My problem is that the wax needs such a small wick that my wick options are very limited. So, I’m thinking about trying a two wick configuration. I wanted some opinions on how this might work.

I used to make melts with 6006 and put them in the refrigerator to get the wax hard so it would come out of the clamshell.

Can anyone tell me about BW-927 wax? It is made by Blended Waxes in Oshkosh, WI. As I have given up on IGI wax I can only find three container paraffin waxes that are available anywhere near me; PB 400, MP-117, or BW-927. I’ve already scratched PB 400 off my list and MP-117 isn’t really giving me what I need.  

On 3/16/2022 at 3:45 PM, Lizzy said:

Glad to see some notes on this wax as I am contemplating testing it. My current wax supplier has been out of wax for almost 5 months now. Second time they did that to me and definitely the last! Are you still digging this wax? 

I should mention that I've been having sooting problems. I believe they are due to overwicking, this wax seems like small wicks.

I see three potential problems. The first is cold FO will drop your wax temp to below 180. The second is that your wax will cool too quickly once the heat source is removed. The last one is pouring into a cold container might be an issue. So it all depends on your equipment.

18 hours ago, TallTayl said:

Totally agree except for one recent caveat- @bfroberts convinced me to try mottling wax. I am having a little fun playing with it just for me. 
 

@ErronB sent me a sample of cbl129 that worked extremely well in my 9 oz jar. Then, of course, the next lot was very different 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

Unfortunately the only waxes any of the suppliers near me carry, other than IGI waxes, are ProBlend 400 or CS’s new MP-117 wax. I was about to give up candle making, but in a momentary lapse of reason I ordered six Crafters Choice FOs; what was I thinking? I may try blending the MP-117 with some old 6006 I have that isn’t too bad. That would give me enough wax to make it through the year. What hurts the most is I’ve gotten pretty good at wicking; it’s a talent I would hate to waste.

On 1/3/2022 at 9:18 PM, TallTayl said:

Neither manufacturers nor resellers have any motivation to own up to issues. Enough People just keep buying the wax 🤷🏻‍♀️

I won't buy IGI wax again unless something changes, not that losing my business will hurt them.

I really liked working with this wax. It is soft, but not too soft, and very white. In general it was easy to work with. I made a single three wick candle in a straight sided, glass container using 6.5% Vanilla Champagne from NG, and LX14 wicks. The HT was excellent, but the wicks were a few sizes too big. I think I’m going to have to wick down a couple of sizes from what I was using in 4630. I had some adhesion issues, but that was probably due my house being 62 degrees and the container being on a granite countertop.  

I am thrilled to find this wax because I was on the verge of giving up. I am strictly a hobbyist, and it has been nine months since I had wax to make a decent candle. My last two orders of wax were awful; I couldn’t get the HT of a day old soy candle out of them.

1 hour ago, PINKT said:

I've been testing the MP-117 at 80/20 blending with a coconut wax. I think the wax is FANTASTIC!!  I'm using 6% fragrance and the hot throw and burn is phenomenal! I don't find it any softer than Problend 400, 4630, 4636, 4627, or 4633. It's a bright white color too which is really pretty.

I’m curious, what does the coconut wax do for it? I’ve not gotten in to blending waxes so that would be a big step for me.

This is from the CS Facebook page

"This container wax is typically reserved for large manufacturing companies as a private label wax, so we're excited to make it available to you. While we can't spill the deets, let’s just say you’ll be using the same wax as some big brand name, high-end candle manufacturers."

If this is true I may find the consistency I'm looking for in this wax. I just ordered two slabs, so we shall see.

I just went to the CS website and they have a new paraffin container wax, MP-117. I don’t know who manufactures it, but  I’m willing to try anything at this point.

And what should I do with the old ones? I have some that are 5+ tears old. Most sites say they keep up to one year, but I've made some nice candles with FOs that were older than that.

16 hours ago, ErronB said:

I have gone through cases and cases of the stuff lately and it is an absolute sh*t show. Every lot either wicked differently or self-trimming wicks wouldn't work at all. So It's been all over the place. 

 

One lot liked CDN wicks, another liked the new HTP wicks, and the last lot of 3 cases I've got sitting here won't work with any self-trimming wicks at all, they all just smoke and clog. Not sure what I'm gonna do with it all.

 

Back about 3 years ago when I started messing with it, CD and Eco worked good in it, but those days are long gone lol.

 

I just got a couple bags of the newest 4627 from CS and even though the HT isn't the greatest at least it wicks pretty good.

Thanks. My 6006 is at least a couple of years old and doesn’t seem to have major issues. I did use it once last year to test it against the 4627 I had and satisfy myself that the 4627 had no HT. I’ll be switching to 4630 after I use up my old 6006. I have a full set of ECO wicks that I haven’t used in years, I need to fit them into my wick list.

Are there any wicks you would not recommend using with 6006? I’ve decided to throw out the bad 4627 I have and use the 6006 I have on hand.

a few years ago I said that this is the place where you could learn everything about making candles, and why you shouldn't. I've seen nothing since that time to change my opinion.

1 hour ago, bfroberts said:

I would. I put zero faith in wax reviews.  I've only ever had one issue with 4630 and in retrospect, I freaked out and made much more of it than it really was.  Since then I've gotten used to some inconsistency in hardness, but a decent cure usually works out the kinks.  

Thanks, I'm a bit gun shy after my last batch of 4627. I had 8oz tins from a previous batch that had much better HT than my triple wicked candles from the new batch.

I need some wax from a good batch, but how do I if the wax I order will be good? My last 4627 was bad and the reviews on Candlescience confirm this. So my hope is that if the recent reviews are good then I stand a reasonable chance of getting good wax. I was looking at the reviews for 4630 and a couple of people had issues when using the wicks recommended by Candlescience, most notably smoking. I guessing, or perhaps hoping, that this has more to do with the wick than the wax. I understand that smoking is a problem with Paraffin, but I haven’t experienced it since I started wicking on the small side. This issue doesn’t seem to be common to all of the reviewers, so should I trust the wax is good?  

On 6/30/2021 at 10:08 PM, KMB said:

Thank you.

I can appreciate that. I started with 464. I didn't like the appearance and no ht. Now I am waist deep in 6006. I have read good things about c3 that had tempter me but I am committed to figuring g 6006 out

That's the same path I followed A year after I gave up on 464 I found one of the candles that had "no HT". When I burned it the HT was stronger than any candle I have ever seen. There is no substitute for cure time, an two weeks is not a magic number. I never found the answers I was looking for with 6006, but I did start making my Christmas candles in June. I've since switched to paraffin, but that has its own set of problems. 

What is your temp after you add the FO, and what is it after stirring? You may need to add the FO at a higher temp and/or add some heat while stirring. I had a batch of 6006 candles once where I added the FO at 180 and stirred for two minutes that gave no HT, It turned out that my wax was getting too cool and I wasn't getting proper blending. I would also echo what bfroberts said about cure time. 6006 contains soy and the longer you wait to test the better the HT will be.

I use two craft stirring sticks with two two holes in one and one hole in the other. I use small hair clips to hold the wicks in place.