Hi, new to the boards, I wanted to let you know of my experience. I found out about them thru an internet add, and the rep who called me was very nice, and even offered to come to my home to help me learn, she even said you don't have to recruit if you don't want, so she sponsered me as a free associate, and I got the Instacandle 5 pack since it was the cheapest thing I could get to just try out. Well, while waiting on my stuff, I kept doing research on the kits and such, and to tell you the truth it is not for little ole me who just wants to be happy makin' candles, not trying to build a network of candlemakers or candlemasters. The prices are expensive, and the 2 larger kits have things you use to recruit with, and you have to pay to maintain a website with them and to have access to their backoffice. I don't want to pay for things I have no intention of using. Plus, I was a bit peeved when I saw that I only have 10 CV's from my order and you MUST have 30 CV's to stay ACTIVE with the company, what if I got sick and didn't feel like making candles for a while, I guess I would be up the river. I am going to use the kits to dip bears, and I did end up making a candle which I am proud of, of course since it is my first. I actually used 2 kits to fill my container to the top, so double the fragrance, it is very strong. I will post a picture in the gallery. I am going to be using Candlescience as my supplier for wax, wicks, and containers since they are just a little over an hour from my house. So I will be a "candlemaster" one day, just not with this company. I suppose if you are into recruiting it may very well be a great company to work with, as they seem to provide a lot of conference calls and tools for you to build your team, so I am not bashing them, just saying it is not a good option if you simply want to have fun making candles at a reasonable price.