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The 474 can be poured at a hotter temp. I would try around 160. We have formulated this wax to be a bit softer from what you may be use to. We have done this to bypass the cracking that is associated with most votives. The 474 can be used for both votives and tarts. You can also use it in a container candle, but may need to add some 402 to soften it up a bit.

The 416 is a pure soy and can only be used in tarts. I would pour this at around 90. Remember, whenever using a pure soy it is better to pour at a lower temp.

thank you for your interest in our products,

Jason

It is a soft wax.

402 and 415 would give you the same result.

I wouldn't add anything hard to this. That is what is causing it to crack. You really need to add a lower melt point wax to this. Please call me if you have any questions.

Anyone interested in all soy tarts should try Golden Brands 416. This soy has the perfect melt point for tarts. It will still need to be poured around 90, but you will get no shrinkage, and a great hot and cold throw. You can purchase the 416 at:

Gateway- 1-877-220-1963

Makes Scents Candles-1-740-927-3526

Aztec- 1-865-588-5357

I promise if any of you like to make soy tarts you will be amazed by this soy.

what are you pouring with?

What is the melt point on the soy wax you are using?

We have a pure soy that is perfect for tarts. It is the LP416. and has a melt point of 135. It is a pure soy so it is best to pour at a low temp. This wax will not flake and will pop right out of the molds. You can get it at either Aztec International (1-865-588-5357) or call Kris at gateway at 1-877-220-1963.

We also have a new blend, GW474, which is great for tarts and votives. It is a blend so it can be poured around 160. You can get a sample of this at gateway or makes Scents Candles.

Hope this helps,

Jason Glaser

I try not to heat it higher than 190, then add FO at their recommended temp, 175*. Pour cloudy to slushy. I use 3% BW and UV.

geek

And this is how you make the perfect candle.

good job geek,

jason

I was not working here at the time and I have never seen any wax from this batch. It is my understanding that it was a batch that fell into the higher melt point range. If this is the case then I would suggest adding 402 or vegetable oil to it. You want to bring the melt point down and the best way to do this is to add something softer to it. Crisco will not make it harder to burn because it has a lower melt point. It will actually make it burn easier.

Call me if you can not get it to work. I will go through it with you.

jason

geek, welcome back. I was a little worried.

has anyone heard from geek in the past week? Geek are u out there?*getdown*

good luck with the 415. let me know if I can help you at all.

what is the melt point of the wax you are using?

Welcome to the board. Watch out for a guy who goes by the name geekrunner. Just kidding he is always good help.

jason

PS-great explaination soygirl. We might make you an official unpaid rep for golden brands. LOL

jason

Breanna,

The 415 is pure soy. You can not put over 8% fragrance in it with out it bleeding. The slush pour, which should be done around 90 degrees, will have a smooth top. You can pour higher, but you will not have the consistency that you will get from pouring at a lower temp. I know a lot of people will add around 3% beeswax to the soy to help out. This is the frustrating part of soy and why so many people have a hard time working with soy. This is why we have come out with the new blends. With these you can use a larger amount of fragrance and achieve smoother tops with a hotter pour. Please feel free to call me anytime you have any issues with a Golden Brands product. I am always happy to help out.

Your friend,

Jason

The 449 starts from the bottom? It will harden completly. This is jsut one of those interesting things about this wax.

jason

Called Wix N Wax and they will be carrying the 444 but not the 449. I didn't receive the 444 in my sample gallons, just the 449. Am I wasting my time even testing the 449? Will it be replaced by the 444? Or are they so close there is no need worrying about it. Also, I think they may just carry the slabs in TX. I love working with the flakes so much more after having to load hundreds of lbs of J223 into my melter Is there another place here in the West that will be carrying the flakes?

Any help would be appreciated.

Vicki,

Right now you can get the 449 at either Peaks Candle Supply in Colorado or Gateway in Dupo, IL. You are not waisting your time testing the 449. It will always be in the market. I just have more people at this point carrying the 444.

FYI-We do not sell slabs. We only sell flakes. Anyone selling a Golden Brands products will be selling flakes only.

let me know if there is anymore I can do for you,

jason

Hello everybody,

I would like to thank all of you for your feedback on the GW423. It seems that this wax needs to be re-blended. We have had this wax back in the lab for a couple of weeks and it seems that we have narrowed the problem down to a couple of things. Now it is time to make some pillars and burn, burn, burn. Do you all hate testing as much as me? Lol. Anyway, I will post on this board when we feel comfortable in the new blend and will be more than happy to send all of you fresh samples. You have all been great help and I appreciate your time and opinions.

The following distributors are carrying our new container blends.

Makes Scents Candles

At Wix End

Gateway Food products

Millcreek Candles

Wix-N-Wax

Peaks Candle Supply

I will be in touch soon with the reformulated 423..

Thanks,

Jason

i am bumping this up for the weekend. I know there were several people from the Texa area and I want to make sure they see this.

Thanks,

jason

I hope all of you have a great weekend.

Golden Brands is now in Texas.

Call Wix-N-Wax for you Golden Wax needs.

1-903-845-6404

Chris77,

The size of the container, pour temp, and the circular crack are all directly relative.

Pics look great

Jason

What she said.

that may make the wax too hard. I would try pouring at a hotter temp and go from there. Adding 415 or 416 for tarts may be ideal in order to make the tarts easier to melt.