Ionic Water

[van_yulay]

Does anyone use ionic water for the lotions or creams?

[ah-soy]

Well, first you have to tell me what ironic water is...ha! I've seen ingredient labels with "de-ionized" water and I believe that's the same as distilled water (which is what I use) that has had the minerals etc. removed.

[van_yulay]

Kepping your body Alkaline is the key to a healthy life. Ionic water is a useally a ph of 9.5 and it has all the bacteria and is filtered through a machine.

I would think it would be a better way to make lotion since it is an antioxidant?

Ionized Alkaline Water:

Characteristics and Benefits of Water Produced by a Water Ionizer

Ionized Alkaline Water is produced by a unique health appliance called a Water Ionizer. The Water Ionizer first passes the water from your kitchen faucet through an advanced filter to remove pesticides, chlorine, and contaminants. The water is then put through the ionization chamber and electrically splits the filtered water into alkaline water and acid water. This is done by running the pre-filtered water over positive and negative electrodes.

A Water Ionizer has two water chambers with positive and negative electrodes. The negative electrode attracts positive minerals, which are the alkaline minerals, to its chamber, while the positive electrode attracts negatively charged minerals, which are acid minerals, to its chamber. The two chambers are separated by a special membrane with very tiny holes, so small that water molecules cannot go through, but large enough to permit the ionized minerals to get through. This ionization process takes place while the water is running through the water ionizer. A stream of alkaline water comes out of the stainless steel nozzle at the top of the unit, and the acid water comes out of the back to drain off into the sink. Approximately 70% of the water produced is alkaline and 30% is acid water.

The common alkaline minerals concentrated by the water ionizer to produce alkaline water are calcium, magnesium, manganese and potassium. The acid minerals that are discarded include chlorine, fluoride, sulfur, phosphorus, bromine, silicon and copper.

Water Ionizers were developed in the late 1950's by several Japanese Agricultural Universities. After the health benefits were well-researched and demonstrated, the water ionizer was approved as a Health Improvement Medical Device by the Health and Rehabilitation Ministry of the Japanese government.

The better quality Water Ionizers have several levels of alkalinity. You can begin by drinking mildly alkaline water, slowly increasing the alkalinity over time. A water ionizer will typically produce water with a pH between 7 and 10. Alkaline water in the 8.5 to 9.5 range is sufficiently alkaline to produce the health benefits desired.

Characteristics of Water Produced by a Water Ionizer:

• Alkalinity
  
  
• Better Tasting
  
  
• Microclustered for better Hydration
  
  
• Antioxidant Activity
  
  
• Increased Oxygen
  
  
• Ability to Detoxify
  
  

Deionized water, also known as demineralized water[2] (DI water, DIW or de-ionized water; can also be spelled deionised water), is water that has had its mineral ions removed, such as cations from sodium, calcium, iron, copper and anions such as chloride and bromide. Deionization is a physical process which uses specially-manufactured ion exchange resins which bind to and filter out the mineral salts from water. Because the majority of water impurities are dissolved salts, deionization produces a high purity water that is generally similar to distilled water, and this process is quick and without scale buildup. However, deionization does not significantly remove uncharged organic molecules, viruses or bacteria, except by incidental trapping in the resin. Specially made strong base anion resins can remove Gram-negative bacteria. Deionization can be done continuously and inexpensively using electrodeionization.

Deionization does not remove the hydroxide or hydronium ions from water. These are the products of the self-ionization of water to equilibrium and therefore are impossible to remove.

[country bee]

Yes,I purchased a small one of all place a salt water pet shop,It work great for my tank and to make my lotions with.No germs,no chemicals but the ph on mine was range of 7 I believe.You had to buy replacement cartridges for it.

[van_yulay]

I am drinking the water at 9.5 for health reasons. I am going to make the lotion with it. Didnt know if anyone has seen a differance with them.

[CareBear]

why? the normal pH of skin is acidic. when it is more alkaline it is prone to infection

Skin barrier and pH

The acidic pH of the horny layer is called the ‘acid mantle’ of the stratum corneum, and is important for both cutaneous antimicrobial defence and the formation of a barrier against permeability. The pH of the skin follows a sharp gradient across the horny layer, controlling activities of pH-dependent enzymes, which regulate skin cornification, desquamation and homeostasis of the barrier function. The lamellar extracellular arrangement of barrier lipids requires an acidic milieu. Normal pH on the surface of adult skin is in the range of 5.4 to 5.9, due to the components of the stratum corneum, sebum and sweat secretion. Endogenous and exogenous influences determine the acidity of the skin: most important are age, anatomic site, the use of detergents (soaps or synthetic detergents) and cosmetic products, occlusion by body folds or dressings, skin irritants and the use of topical pharmacological substances [4].

In the very young child the skin pH is typically slightly acid at 5.5. This usually remains constant in adulthood, and increases to be more alkaline in elderly people. Moist body folds, the axillae, genito-anal region and the interdigital spaces have a slightly more alkaline pH and are more prone to yeast and fungal infections. Following the use of soap the pH is raised for a few hours; this is much less pronounced if acidic synthetic detergents are used. The pH can rise significantly under occlusive dressings and on exposure to skin irritants such as ammonia and stool enzymes in nappies or continence pads, resulting in disruption of the skin barrier and irritation [5].

Changes in skin pH may play a significant role in the pathogenesis, prevention and treatment of irritant contact dermatitis, atopic dermatitis, ichthyosis, acne vulgaris, Candida albicans infections and wound healing. The acidity of the skin surface is said to be bacteriostatic for some strains: most bacteria grow better in a neutral pH. A correlation between pH and bacterial growth has been described for propionibacteria after the use of alkaline soap on the forehead [5] and for the development of mycoses in skin folds in patients with diabetes and patients on dialysis [6].

http://www.worldwidewounds.com/2009/September/Flour/vulnerable-skin-1.html

Edited April 3, 2010 by CareBear

[van_yulay]

I asked if anyone has made lotion with Ionic water? ( You can make inonic water from 7.0 to 11.5) I understand all the skin and the acid mantle.When the skin is about 7.45 then you can fight infection still. Anything above that is not good for the skin. Babies are born with skin that is 7.0-7.35 . Same as the blood. I am more interested in the ORP factor.

So once again , Has anyone made lotion with ionic water?

[CareBear]

well I beg your pardon for asking why. I thought I might learn something new. carry on.

Edited April 4, 2010 by CareBear

[van_yulay]

You weren't asking a question why, but gave me a lesson in acid mantles. I didnt take it as if you wanted to learn something. Sounded snotty to me. Thus my repsonse.

[CareBear]

well you would know my intent far better than I.

Edited April 4, 2010 by CareBear