Alajane Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 I usually use and sell electric warmers for tarts, but bought a dozen tealight warmers for an upcoming craft show. In testing the warmer, I got a very quick, great scent throw. I had to leave after a couple of hours so I blew out the tealight. When I relit it, I never got a good throw again and after about an hour I noticed the wax (from the tart--not the tealight) was smoking! I wondered if the wax might have gotten too hot and burned off the fragrance quickly, because my tarts usually last a couple of days in electric warmers, so I took the temperature of the wax and it was 210°F. It seems that is probably too hot--does anyone know or have more information about this? When I bought the warmers, the owner asked me if I had DPG to cut the fragrance oils in the warmer, and I told him I was planning to use them for tarts. This makes me think perhaps they would be better used for oils and I might need to get some small bottles and DPG to sell oils with them. Do you know if you can use higher temperature with oils than with tarts? TIA, Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugtussle Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 I would say the t-light is too close to the warmer bowl and the scent went quickly. Maybe the t-light burned too hot. Do you have a different t-light to try? Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alajane Posted April 21, 2008 Author Share Posted April 21, 2008 I don't, but I may pick up a few different ones today--I had no idea if they burned differently. The ones I have on hand were from Dollar General.Thanks for the suggestion.Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Direct flame type melters are problematic because the source of heat isn't constant. I think the tarts were overheated and the FO mostly burned off as you suspected. I prefer electric warmers for melts because the temperature is more constant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alajane Posted April 21, 2008 Author Share Posted April 21, 2008 I do, too--these were just so cute and such a good price I couldn't resist! Should have known better and stuck with my electric ones.Do you know if these would work for oils?Thanks, Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jojo T. Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 I have found that unless the tealight tart warmers are high that this problem occurs. I am always telling people who buy my tarts to make sure that they burn them in a warmer with sufficient height to prevent overheating of the wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebecca Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 I think it was posted awhile ago that there should be at least 4 inches from the tealight, to the base of the cup that the tart sits in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharon in KY Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Check the size and then try t-lites made with soy container wax. I make them with LX8 wicks and they burn a lot cooler and longer. Don't like the cheap ones they burn too hot and fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alajane Posted April 22, 2008 Author Share Posted April 22, 2008 I knew not to get one that was too close to the bowl, and chose this one because it looked like it would be okay, but I don't believe there's 4 inches--maybe 3-1/2 inches between the base and the bowl.I think I may just ditch these because I don't want to add making tealights to my chores--I don't believe my cheap clientele would be willing to pay what I would want to charge for my trouble!Thanks for the help,Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carol k Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 before you ditch them try them with fo mixed with dpg 50/50 & see how they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alajane Posted April 22, 2008 Author Share Posted April 22, 2008 I probably will hold them and try that--I don't have any DPG (should have picked some up when the owner asked me if I had any!!). Wish I had gotten some because I'll bet the bottled oils might have sold better than tarts at my upcoming show. But right now I don't need to place any more orders for a while--slightly overdid last week!Thanks for the suggestion.Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReneeM Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 I could be totally wrong about this, I've never worked with DPG, but from my understanding DPG lowers the flashpoint. May want to research that a bit more. We used tealights with the same results you had, a bit of smoking. There are every size imaginable warmers, once we got a larger one, the smoking stopped. Keep in mind tho, you can't control what your customers are using as warmers. Maybe a larger tart would mean more substance in the bowl and it wouldn't get so hot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazymom Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Could it be candle nose? I had a tealight warmer going with a melt in it that had been burned through 3 or 4 tealights. I noticed I couldn't smell it, so blew it out, figuring I'd replace it. The doorbell rings, and its the neighbor, he never even stepped inside, and the first thing he said was "WOW your house smells soooo good!!" The warmer was around a corner and about 15-20 feet from the door. I was just so used to the smell that I couldn't smell it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReneeM Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 LOL it happens! I'll forget I have the warmer going because *I* can't smell it anymore and then someone will come over and I'll get the same response you did. It takes me a minute to think 'wth is it they're smelling?!' then *LIGHTBULB!* LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alajane Posted May 5, 2008 Author Share Posted May 5, 2008 ReneeM, you're right--I have no control at all over what customers do! The bowl in this warmer wouldn't be big enough for a larger tart; that's actually the reason I bought them--because they would be perfect for the mini-melt size of clamshell sections.I plan to get some DPG in the next coupld of weeks and will try the oils--if it works, I'll tell people these warmers are only for oils, not tarts.And yes, I never smell anything in my house except when it's fresh. At a show we did this weekend, my daughter was telling a customer that she smells my house from the driveway!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReneeM Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Try the oils in it and watch closely. When I tested my oils in a smaller warmer they smoked bad. Once I put them in a larger one, they were fine. I hate those small warmers now, took me forever to figure out that it wasn't something I was or wasn't doing, it was the warmer itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alajane Posted May 6, 2008 Author Share Posted May 6, 2008 Thanks, Renee, for the suggestion. It looks like these warmers may have been a waste of money--glad I just got a dozen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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