prcandles Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 I have spent the past couple of days going thru the old posts on here, and have noticed some posts that said to use the SAP value for cherry kernel oil instead of the coconut, IF the coconut oil was around 30%. I guess the question is does the .24 really change the lye concentration that much?Or have I not read this right? Either way, I guess I am curious before I start to make another batch.Thanks, Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugenia Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 The lesser lye amount makes for a milder bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prcandles Posted May 26, 2007 Author Share Posted May 26, 2007 Eugenia,when using the lesser amount, will it change the way the oils behave if I do this in a crockpot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugenia Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 Nope. Theory behind this is that coconut gets it's reputation for harshness from the excess lye the calculators recommend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prcandles Posted May 26, 2007 Author Share Posted May 26, 2007 Eugenia, I really appreciate you taking the time to answer this silly question. I have already started the batch, and the only difference was the amount of time it took to get to trace. But that could have been from the oils I used. Hopefully soon today I will have soap!Thanks again.Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugenia Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 Pat, I have done this and it works. I am always happy to help a fellow soaper. Personally, I like a combo of 10-12% coconut and 15% PKO flakes so this does not come into play. On the occasion that I've been out of PKO, it has come in very handy.e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prcandles Posted May 26, 2007 Author Share Posted May 26, 2007 Eugenia,This will be the fourth batch I have made. The first three are all cut and they all smell nice, but for me, they do seem a bit drying. My BF works too much with his hands so its hard for him to tell me one way or the other. Hopefully this last one will be a nice one. Thanks again.Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbren Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 I bought into that whole 'change the coconut SAP' thing a while back but don't do it any more. The only thing you are doing is increasing your superfat, so why not just add some nice conditioning oils and up your superfat percentage. Same results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamp_deb Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 Eugenia,This will be the fourth batch I have made. The first three are all cut and they all smell nice, but for me, they do seem a bit drying. My BF works too much with his hands so its hard for him to tell me one way or the other. Hopefully this last one will be a nice one. Thanks again.PatAnother thing you may need to consider is the age of your first three batches. Even HP soap is milder a few weeks after the cook. I know that I will use the scrapings to wash my hands as soon as it cools, but I really like the soap better when it has had some shelf time.You will get people telling you exactly how long saponification takes in certain processes, I know what works for me and that is curing time after I cut the bars. I find this to be true with cp and hp. Keep making soap, you will learn from each batch, xperiment and see how you like your soap, that is the best teacher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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