minx

Like most things, I believe that this is just another item that we may well need to source overseas. At this rate, may as well just up and move the business to the US. At least shipping would be somewhat cheaper

Richard

What gets me is, how do others here in Aus do it?? Where are they learning, or are they just putting any wick in and going for it?? I've looked over FB and it there are a few candle sellers out there. (Soy ones) They MUST have or be having the same issues we are???

I know you don't use them, but if you decide to test CDs & CDNs, try a CDN 12-14 for that tin. HTH & have fun! :-)

I shall do Stella, and thanks for all your input

I won't add any additives yet until I test my next batch. Poured some other fragrances the day after I poured this one and heated the FO, the pouring jug and let them cool down in the oven over night so I will see how those burns go in terms of the frosting issue before I add anything. I know the health food store is advertising CO, so if I do try and add some I will check them out first. Not sure if we even have USA here.

The tin is 8 oz with a 3 inch diameter. With this one I heated till 180 poured into jug on scales addedFO (unwarmed) and stirred and stirred and poured at 160. Left to cool overnight on a metal tray on the dining room table.

I did think of trying CDN's but then reading all the posts have decided to try and find something in the htp, that or order from overseas.

I'll be doing burn 3 tonight when I get home, so will see what the flame is like with that one.

Hi Minx,

I am not expert, but from my (limited) experience I would not be too unhappy with the hang up. I reckon by the time it gets a few more burns under its belt I would not be surprised if it catches up as Stella mentioned.

I am thinking about a run of tests with HTP to see if they help my shroom issues with CDN. I notice you have a small bit of carbon on your wick. Is this indicative of what you have experienced with HTP?

I am getting variance with CDN's - if carbon deposits were as small as that on my CDN's using c3 I would be much happier.

Bart

I am cool with the hang up, and now just will work on the frosting issue Stella mentioned.

Actually I had to think about this so I don't think they are really a huge issue for me (at the moment) I have only really been testing in tins and there has been small carbon deposits, but nothing bad. They get cut off before the next burn anyway.

I would try the htp. If anything they are at least something that is easily available here.

Thanks Spark, I think I will go buy some competitors candles and see what they are like. At least then I would know what is around.

Do you know what USA is? Why would anyone object to your using it in a soy candle? It's already an ingredient of C3 and GW 464... You could also experiment with veggie oils and see which one helps the texture of your candle - some wax manufacturers use cottonseed oil, some use palm oil, etc. Remember that there is a finite amount of oil any wax will hold (and you want to leave room in the wax for your FO), so start with 1 tsp. and try not to use over 1 Tablespoonful per pound of wax.

How's the HT? If it isn't very good, you may need to wick up one size. Sorry I can't help with HTP wicks - I use CDNs & CDs.

Sorry Stella, I didn't word that last post correctly. Is USA something I should add? Having read you say C3 has it already, then the answer would be no??? CO I could try, would that be an idea??

I meant that I didn't like the white dry mould looking bit on the hangup when the candle resolidified, but I could live with it because I know it doesn't so anything. But I don't think friends or potential customers would like it.

The HT is soft, as in it isn't constantly filling your nostrils every second, but you get wiffs of it and you can smell it. Gee I hope that makes sense...lol

I do have a htp105 testing today and the HT was good I thought. I am testing it in a shop that has the door open all the time and when I go out to the loo and come back in I can smell it. More a soft smell I would say.

I can try wicking up and see what happens. Would have to buy some more wicks though. I would have thought it would make the MP quickly for sure, but won't know till I test.

I think the hard part with learning all about the candle making and being new is you don't know exactly what you are aiming for. Like, what is a good HT??? Fragrance all the time, always smelling it??

Sorry for all the questions.

When hangup is thick or doesn't go away quickly, the wax there is subjected to temperatures and an environment in the range that encourages the undesirable types of crystals to grow. This is a cosmetic issue and does not affect the burn or throw of the candle. If you don't like it, you may be able to discourage it by using some additives to help tame the polymorphism. HTH :-)

Would you add USA? I don't like it, but would be able to live with it for sure, but if I give a candle as a gift or sell one I really don't think this is going to endear them to my product.

NCS have been oos on eco wicks since I started making candles in mid 09...

You would think it would be better for business to not have them listed at all!!

What about taking pictures??? Harder way to do it,but would give people and idea of what you have. Not one piece at a time pics.... this table... that table...sort of thing?

Nope not getting too hot at all. I actually was able to pick it up off the table and put it onto the folder which is in the pics (hoping it was easier to see with the white paper beneath it).

I do have a htp 105 in this tester I have with me at work. Made two tins of each FO. Was intending to power burn this one, but trying the 105 instead.

I will keep burning the 126 until the end and see how it goes.

I think the pics look good! I'll have to try the Htps too. No redhot little embers at tip of wick while burning?

Thanks Chandler No embers on the wick burning and no smoke or too much dancing on the flame. I just looked and thought "Hmmmm is that too big?" so thought I would ask the experts

I was okay with the hangup. Doesn't worry me at all cause of reading the posts have seen that it will go eventually. Does the flame seem a normal height? (If you can tell from the pics)

That is weird frosting then. I know with the coloured candles and the frosting that gives, but this is just around the tops of the hangup. The same as someone posted yesterday with their jar pictures( trying to remember which post it was).

The wax is Naturewax C3 with no additives except the FO.

I guess I am trying to learn the right way it should burn and what a correct wick in a candle should look like.

NCS have the ECO wicks and the CDN wicks as well.

I've done my second test burn on my C3, Mimosa & Mandarin candle. The first burn was fine and I was happy with the flame and all, but I'm not sure about the second burn. I did take some pictures and hopefully you can see clearly (iphone isn't the best in my house for candle pics) The last one is the wick after I have ended the flame. Still not a complete MP and am right now burning a second one with a htp 105. Oh, the wick in this one is a htp 126.

Also, what is the white stuff that dries on the sides after a burn? It looks like white mould. Is this a good or a bad thing, cause it looks horrid.

First photo attempt so sorry if they are too big.

I'm not Stella but I just asked this question myself.

USA = Universal Soy Additive

http://candlemarketingsweeti.com/blog/2010/02/candle-additives-universal-soy-additive/

Thanks Paul .... and I don't mind that you're not Stella

Stella, what is USA?

Nothing for me either. Waiting a bit longer for some testers to cure.

Stella, you are an absolute champion!!!!! Thanks!

Chandler and Green, I'm in Aussie. So kinda out of my reach. But will definitely keep an eye out and might even ask the suppliers here if they can get those ones in. Worth a try!

The colours look great... I love em

Way easier than candles???? Have to admit seeing all the lovely soaps does make me think about it...but with just starting candles, and weaving.... I think the man would have heart failure!

Gee.... so it's not just the Advanced that can take a while to cure? I have testers everywhere...lol.

I started with C3 too. Found cooling them in a warm oven gave nice smooth tops. 6% FO wasn't so good, so trying 8% with a new batch. Going to wait 5 days to test though.

Wish tins where clear

I had the same issue recently. 99cents for 30ml from NCS. The shipping cost me $15 and the order was only $9.

If only everything was local

The tins were perfectly round and no issues with lids fitting before I filled them Warp might be a strong word, but they did change shape enough for the lid not to slide easily onto the tin.

I bought them from NCS here in Aus. Annoying if it is the quailty of the tins as I still have a box full.

Does anyone have any issues with tins going out of shape?

I had one or two move out of shape and thought it was because I had taped the wick to the tin. But last night I made some testers with the C3 without wicks. Melted to 180, poured at 160 and popped them into a warm oven and let them cool overnight.

When I put the lids on this morning, some wouldn't sit on properly. They would slip up. The came with the lids on so I know they do fit.

My thoughts were that it was poured to hot into the tin and it is warped it slightly, or maybe it was too full. I've been filling just over the indent line.

Anyone had this issue before or any ideas????