we got hot throw!!!!! smelled pretty good!!! i am not giving up hope. soy wax from the craft store..yaley brand. i was told the brand of wax was ok and i already had it bought before the better fo's. same with wicks...yaley size medium for soy. really this is just family fun for us...not looking to make a living or anything...but still am interested in a good product...as i do love candles!!! i am a stay at home mom and there is much to be learned in projects like these for kids....it is science in its finest!!! keeping the 5 year old safe. no worries. she helps us cook every night so i feel confident in her ability to stir some wax in a presto pot. lol....we are very careful. there will be no drinking of the fo's....lol. thanks for the tips though...makes one think!