Woodcreek

Yes I switched to a palm pillar wax because I really love the crystal patterns and the hot throw. I only use 1 oz FO per lb and the only additive I put in is UV inhibitor and candle dye. The melt point changes when you put in additives so I don't know exactly what the new one would be but it would be slightly lower than 136 degrees. Its melt point is in the same working range as tart/votive/pillar waxes go.

As far as melting goes I use several different makes and models of electric and tea lite meltors and have no problem whatsoever. I am aware that there are some meltors that have a lower voltage or use the lightbulb as the source to warm the melt. I used to have one or two of these myself and they didn't exactly melt parrafin melts all that well either.

I am finding that the palm melts as easily as soy and easier than parrafin melts. All in all I am very happy with the quality of the palm and don't intend to go back to soy or parrafin melt making.

I like the fact that you are very certain and firm about never switching back. Does the palm pillar wax also have a good cold throw?

And do you mind if I ask where you purchase it from?

How long should the scent last with a tart?

What is CO?

What is 76 CO?

So now that some time has passed, how is the ky working out for you? Are you still mixing it will 415, are you still having problems? Or are you loving it-like many, many other users? I am considering it, however-what works for everyone else doesn't always work for me. I have tried many types of waxes it is really hard to switch to new ones. Please let me know where you are with your wax situation. Thanks:)

Yes. If you use a container wax for tarts & melts you will want to use stearic acid to harden the wax. Just follow the directions on the package for amounts and then test. Perhaps the easiest would be to use a votive wax, then you don't need to worry about adding anything!

I was considering trying a soy blend, (votive/ tart)but quite a few of them are still a little soft. So then I was thinking I might be able to add a little steric acid to it to make it a little harder. Seeings I don't know anything about soy---that is where all the questions come from. Thank you for taking the time to help!

I've never used Vybar, so can't help you there. I'm pretty sure a search would turn up a lot of info tho!

But you meant for the steric acid to help with the hardness, right? (Because of using a container wax?)

It is all soooo confusing and not to mention time consuming!

I appreciate all of your input. Thanks!

GB stands for Golden Blends. They manufactor soy waxes; 464, 444, 415 to name a few. Peaks carries them and so do some other suppliers.

You do not need to add anything to Eco-soy Pillar blend to make tarts. If I understand you are not making clamshell tarts. That is what I make, I haven't done the other so can't help you there. If you use a container wax for tarts and melts you will probably have better success adding some stearic acid.

Da, I am with you now. And so steric acid, would make the wax harder, correct? And vybar helps with retention of fo?

That whitish powdery look is frosting. Won't hurt the tart but as you mentioned it is only cosmetic. Ecosoya PB does make great smelling tarts thou.

I switched to using crystal pillar palm wax for my tarts now. I find I get the best scent throw, a beautiful crystal pattern, and the tarts release from the tart warmer bowl the easiest out of any wax I have used. You only need to push the wax and it pops out in one whole piece.

And so you used to use the Ecosoya PB and that is what you switched from? And if yes, yours now has a better throw hot & cold? How much fo do you use with the crystal pillar palm wax and do you use additives? And what is the melt point (another person said her warmer would not melt this wax?)

I use gb 444. I started w/ 464, but the 444 releases easier.

What is gb?

Ok, so there is a gentlemen that I know who makes tarts from IGI 4627-they are awesome. They have a great throw scent hot & cold. He pours them into regular cupcake papers. I just don't want to venture with that soft of a wax for a tart. No punt intended.

So if I wanted a somewhat of a harder melt? Would I be starting with a paraffin and then adding a little soy to it? Or are the blends that everyone is mentioning not real soft? I don't want a soft tart that smears all over my package. I would like to be able to stick them into a polypropylene bag with a homespun tie, and still be able to see them if they were touched 10 times. So I have to let it set out for a certain amount of time before bagging? Do you have to let all candles cure for a certain period?

I melted a piece of a Creme Brulee melt that I had made, and it really smells awesome. Well, almost stinking awesome (I don't like Creme Brulee). Point is: I can smell it. I could not smell it in the package, to tell what the fragrance even was. Usually, more problem is hot through, not cold. Problem with this melt, is that I have no clue which wax it was that I used. After I made it, I could not smell it (in my book it sucked), and so then the notes that I had kept while making it became unimportant and are lost.

I do know that I will need to play some more, but I am just hoping for advice as to where to start for the characteristics I am looking for. And then the other question I have for everyone who weren't specific, do I need additives? Or could I add vybar or steraric acid to KY Parasoy or Ecosoya PB to make it harder(I am not familiar with these waxes as far as the blend).

And now I am raised to another question (debate), does soy last longer? Any feedback from individuals who have done both? And how about fragrance loads? Is there one that can hold 10%, or what is the highest fragrance load that a pillar type wax can hold?

Is your a complete soy wax or paraffin blend? And do you add any additives?

Alabaster has them for 24 cents each for quantities of 100. They have different prices for different quantities.

www.alabastercandlesupply.com

First off let me start by saying thanks for all of the information that is listed. It is easy to spend hours reading.

My problem is that my sniffer does not work like it use to at all.

What is the BEST wax to use on tarts/melts? I would like to hear from ALL types of wax users. I am not looking for a particular type of wax (soy, paraffin, palm, etc, I am looking for the BEST wax for hot and cold throw for tarts/melts. I am not highly concerned whether the wax shrinks or not either. I just want the BEST wax for hot and cold throw.

I am curious as well to see the response as to what wax is used most commonly. I have a great customer base for candles, however I use straight IGI 4627. I really do not want to venture with that messy of a tart. I have purchased many types of waxes and played around with them. I am tired! I have awesome fo that have been purchased form Chemical companies, (I bought them from a candle company that went out of business). I think that is part of my problem, the fo are so strong that the sniffer is spent!! Whatever wax seems to be the best response is where I am going. I will trust your experience instead of my nose.

PLEASE HELP!!!!