Monvi33

Thanks! I'm still in testing mode, but having a blast and learning so much from all of you!

Here are a few more that I have found great CT and HT at 7-8%

Peak's

French Vanilla Amber-to dye for!

CS

English Garden-very floral, but nice

Black Cherry-blow ya out of the house strong

Ocean Breeze

Cinnamon Sticks-Fantastic!

Hansel and Gretels House-love this one

This is a great thread! I love seeing more about the 464 on here! I have found that pouring hot works the best for me, I am not sure of the exact temp when I pour into room temp jars, but I'm guessing 155 or 160, maybe 165 sometimes, just depends when I add fo, etc. I dont do all this to an exact art, but I still get great throw, so I am not stressing over it. I was making tarts w/ the 464, but have found that 444 is much easier to work with for the tarts and have done some jars too and I think its just as good as the 464. 464 makes great smelling tarts, but can be harder to release from some molds, but not all. I have a link started about fo's that do well in this wax and when I get a free minute, I plan on updating that. I think its nice to know what does good and what doesnt, and if it helps someone else save money and time, then I am all for it! Cant wait to see more posting on this thread!

This is Great! Although what works for one may not work for another.

I am opposite on pour temp..I find for me that pouring cool/slightly slushy 100-115 usually 110 gives me the best appearance with the least ammount of frosting. I get a few more wet spots, working on those, however I can live with wet spots.

I find that 6%-8% FO gives me fantastic HT on most FO. If not I will not use it.

I also have taken Stella's advice and I temper my wax..takes a little longer but works for me, and I don't mind the extra time for a super smooth candle.

I prefer the Eco wicks, but also use the CDN's, HTP's, and LX (still testing most all) usually end up with Eco or CDN.

Just what I do..HTH!

I hope this worked....my first pics of my container candles. Thanks for looking. What do you all think?

So, I've been using 464 in 8oz jelly jars, Eco 8 wicks and using 12% fo.

I know the 12 % seems like a lot but I wanted to get the strongest fragrance possible.

Well, needless to say I have run into problems.

I don't seem to have much of a hot throw.

Should I wick up? OR should I use less fo.

How much should I cut down to? TIA!

I use the 464, I generally use 6-8%, 8% being my max. I am still testing and have done many tests with this wax. I tried it with 10% and the FO sweated like crazy out of the top, and I found, IMO that the HT was worse. I find it easiest to take one problem out of the equation at a time...less hair pulling in the end. Good Luck with your testing!

Any opinions on their buttered rum and vanilla hazelnut??

I've tried there buttered rum...true to life I think and a strong thrower in 464. I also love the Blueberry Cheesecake! I just ordered a sample of Asian Amber and didn't like it OOB. The Cinnamon Sticks throws like crazy in my 464! I would also be interested on any opinions of the vanilla hazelnut! TIA

I just poured CS Sage and Pomegranate and have to say it was not what I was expecting....but is a great clean scent. Great CT so far......can't wait to burn it!!

I use the 464, love it! Here are some I found that have FANTASTIC HT:

CS: Black Cherry, Mac Apple, Cinnamon Sticks, Very Vanilla, Blueberry Cheesecake, Ocean Breeze, Wildberry Mousse, Rain Water, Lavender, Lilac, English Garden, and Hansel and Gretels house.

Peak: French Vanilla Amber (fantastic scent) only one so far that was stong enough to me.

So far I have Loved every scent I've tried from Candlescience, and most of those from Peak's.

Forgot to mention that I am still loving Peak's French Vanilla and Amber. Such a pretty scent.

I'm testing Peak's French Vanilla and Amber now and I LOVE it! Beautiful Scent!

How many ounces is it capable of holding? What do you write on the label for oz?

You have to write the net wt. Which I agree is about 7 oz.

Where do you get the black metal ones? I can't find any.

Depending on if your jars are the lug, or CT thread Fillmore has both in black. www.fillmorecontainer.com They have lots of choices, and are great people to deal with.

I use jars like that, although I use the black metal twist lids. They really make a very classy candle.

Buttered Rum...I have a friend who LOVES it so I make it, but gives me the worst headache. Still trying out many scents so there is not one that I Wont make yet!!:smiley2:

Newbie and still testing, but will share:

Type of Soy or Soy Blend you use? 464

Additives if any? none

Preferred dyes? dye chips, but have used liquid

Preferred wick (Not sizes)? Eco is my fav, or CSN

Pouring temp you recommend? 100* slushy

What you do to prevent frosting? working on it, pouring cool helps most of the time.

What you do to prevent rough tops? still working on the best for my conditions, usually nice with low pour temp.

Do you do anything to prevent wet spots? usually not a problem, make sure container is clean (don't touch inside with fingers), and love them if they show up!

I am using gw464. Some candles have this weird thing happening. The bottom and top set up fine' date=' but in the middle the candle almost looks like it isn't set up. There are light and dark speckles. My supplier said to cook the fo in for between 10-30 minutes and I do that and it still happens. So I read that you will get a better throw if you add the fo before you pour. So I tried that, still the same. It happens on strong and light scents. What is it. The supplier that I use isn't fond of soy and has never personally used it so I need some advice from pros. I am heating to 150 and pouring at 140. Help. They smell great, but look funky.[/quote']

I am a newbie to candles, but i will share my experience. I got my new box of wax last night and tried a little experiment on cooling temperatures, and the wax. I poured 3 candles: 1 (made from old wax) I poured at 165, pre-heated jar, and left candle to cool in turned off warm oven overnight, 1 (new wax) I poured at 140 and left to cool on counter with only a blanket wrap, and 1 (new wax) I poured at 100 and left on counter to cool with no other insulation.

I don't know if this is the reason or not but the two candles that cooled on counter came out PERFECT and the candle that cooled in oven had those lines/mottling look.

So for me the candle that cooled very Slowly, cooled too slowly, Is that possible? All of the information posted always said to allow to cool very slowly.

My specs are 16oz 464 (from Peak), heated to 185, fo and dye added at 180, cooled to pouring temp. oh yeah, and my temp in my house is usually around 74 F.

I also found that If I heated the sides of the containers with a heat gun, that the "lines" were actually trapped bubbles that released as they were melted. I tried to fix the ones with the lines, but not really any luck with that, the more I seemed to melt the was and release the bubbles, the worse it would look.

Sorry for the long reply, I hope that it helps you a little, it's a very frustrating problem.

Hi I am new to the forum and am also having this exact issue. I agree with you in describing a mottled appearance. I have spoke to two different suppliers that I order from, one suggested it's a fragrance oil not being blended issue, and the other one said it's a temperature issue. I also have tried pre-heating the jars, pouring slower, pouring cooler, pouring hotter, pouring faster. Nothing is working. I use 464, heat to 185 add 7% FO at 180 and have tried pouring at 115, 120, 135, and 140. I would also greatly appreciate some help with this issue.

I thought at one point it was a problem with the wax, may I ask you which supplier you get your was from?

I just ordered a new batch of wax and am going to see if that's the problem, because on my first box of wax my candles did not have this problem, so I will let you know what happens.